3 minutes ago, victoria foxton said:

That's when Minx came back. She even joked that the CapWater deaged her.

It may have been what turned CC from Paul Burke to Jed Allen as well... 

Edited April 29, 20196 yr by j swift

Or Paul Burke to Charles Bateman to Jed Allan...

I wonder if Paul Rauch as producer of SB also caused a lot of the problems during the Dobsons' return. He made a point to destroy Augusta's character and fire Louise Sorel (wasn't it because they had had an affair at some point?) and Augusta kept having those flirtations/dream sequences with her sister's rapist. Rauch and Roscoe Born butted heads so Born was gone, and Bizeau soon followed. A real shame as I thought the Flame/Michael pairing was great. Runyeon also disappeared soon after. 

John Conboy was EP in the stories you mentioned, I believe. I don't think Paul Rauch came in until late 1991/early 1992.

21 hours ago, victoria foxton said:

That's when Minx came back. She even joked that the Capridge Water deaged her.

She was de-aged quite a bit by that water! I wonder what the age difference was between Janis Page and Nicholas Coster. I did enjoy her in the role though. As much as I wasn't a fan of Pam Long's last year of writing, she did use the Lockridges, including Minx, more than previous regimes.

8 hours ago, chrisml said:

I wonder if Paul Rauch as producer of SB also caused a lot of the problems during the Dobsons' return. He made a point to destroy Augusta's character and fire Louise Sorel (wasn't it because they had had an affair at some point?) and Augusta kept having those flirtations/dream sequences with her sister's rapist. Rauch and Roscoe Born butted heads so Born was gone, and Bizeau soon followed. A real shame as I thought the Flame/Michael pairing was great. Runyeon also disappeared soon after. 

Bizeau as Flame was amazing....she had a real "it" factor about her.

6 minutes ago, pdm1974 said:

She was de-aged quite a bit by that water! I wonder what the age difference was between Janis Page and Nicholas Coster.

 

Per imdb and other internet sources (I know, grain of salt): Janis Paige was born September 16, 1922 and Nic Coster was born December 3, 1933. Dame Judith Anderson was born February 10, 1897 (and passed January 3, 1992). I think it would have made far more sense to have Janis Paige play Minx's long-lost daughter, making Cassie Minx's granddaughter instead. Then again, when is a soap opera - especially SB - supposed to make sense? 

37 minutes ago, amybrickwallace said:

 

Per imdb and other internet sources (I know, grain of salt): Janis Paige was born September 16, 1922 and Nic Coster was born December 3, 1933. Dame Judith Anderson was born February 10, 1897 (and passed January 3, 1992). I think it would have made far more sense to have Janis Paige play Minx's long-lost daughter, making Cassie Minx's granddaughter instead. Then again, when is a soap opera - especially SB - supposed to make sense? 

 

I agree. Janis Paige, while no doubt a great actress, was far too young to play Minx and should have been another Lockridge relative. The Cassie stuff still could have played out as it did and denied her Warren, etc.

8 hours ago, amybrickwallace said:

John Conboy was EP in the stories you mentioned, I believe. I don't think Paul Rauch came in until late 1991/early 1992.

 

The internet search says he left in summer 1991 and Rauch replaced him. Don't know how accurate that is. I just remember reading that Born and Rauch had feuded and Sorel was fired because of Rauch. It wouldn't surprise me knowing what I've read about him, but my memory could be faulty. I didn't always care for Conboy's SB, but Rauch ruined SB for me. Pamela Long helped kill it.

1 hour ago, pdm1974 said:

Bizeau as Flame was amazing....she had a real "it" factor about her.

She definitely had it, and I wish that behind the scenes turmoil hadn't caused her departure. The Michael/Flame (which used to be on youtube) was so good and the character could have done so much more. 

Of course, I could be wrong on the dates myself. I thought that Louise Sorel had issues with just the Dobsons re: the Dash story and that she was out before Rauch came in. I'm not as familiar with the last three or so years of SB as I am of its first five.

Edited April 30, 20196 yr by amybrickwallace

21 minutes ago, amybrickwallace said:

Of course, I could be wrong on the dates myself. I thought that Louise Sorel had issues with just the Dobsons re: the Dash story and that she was out before Rauch came in. I'm not as familiar with the last three or so years of SB as I am of its first five.

I think it was a combination of things including the Dash storyline. Sorel has a really good interview at welovesoaps that goes into this. Interestingly, she never mentions Rauch by name when talking about the producer who produced the show when she left.

Edited April 30, 20196 yr by chrisml

8 hours ago, chrisml said:

I think it was a combination of things including the Dash storyline. Sorel has a really good interview at welovesoaps that goes into this. Interestingly, she never mentions Rauch by name when talking about the producer who produced the show when she left.

 

I believe LS was in a relationship with Paul Rauch when both were on OLTL - in between her stints on SB.

On 4/28/2019 at 8:50 PM, j swift said:

 So, one week Stephen is accusing Cassie of burning his film about the Capwells, then they both disappear...

 

The Dobson's wanted nothing to do with the current plots so they were dropped.  

 

Actually Cassie outlasted Stephen by a full year. He figured out her role in various mysterious incidents, threatened to expose her, agreed to meet her for breakfast to hear her side of things, and was never seen again. Then we heard Cassie on the phone asking someone, "So you're sure they'll never find him?"

 

Cassie moved on a near-romance with Mason under the Dobsons, then got involved with Jack Wagner's Warren, then went full psycho when Pam Long took over and wrote her out in 1992.

15 hours ago, chrisml said:

 

The internet search says he left in summer 1991 and Rauch replaced him. Don't know how accurate that is. I just remember reading that Born and Rauch had feuded and Sorel was fired because of Rauch. It wouldn't surprise me knowing what I've read about him, but my memory could be faulty. I didn't always care for Conboy's SB, but Rauch ruined SB for me. Pamela Long helped kill it.

 

 

Roscoe Born left SB in May 1991. Conboy left in June and was replaced by Rauch.

Edited April 30, 20196 yr by redontop4

Did Born and Rauch have any publicized problems with each other when both were on OLTL?

6 hours ago, redontop4 said:

Roscoe Born left SB in May 1991. Conboy left in June and was replaced by Rauch.

Thanks for the clarification. I remember reading that Born had done a video complaining about the EP (who I thought was Rauch). Does anyone remember this? If I recall, this led to Bizeau's firing because of her involvement with him. Does this ring a bell for anyone?

I don't know the answers to any of that, but here's a current pic of Roberta Bizeau aka Weiss. She's shorn the trademark Flame hair for the Susan Powter look...but it works for her!