Santa Barbara Discussion Thread

[Marissa Gallant]

I hate Scott more everyday. So tired of always angry. It is so boring! And it's funny, because I did watch once in a great while. I knew who Scott was back then and didn't mind him. I sort of knew stories, not well, but sort of knew. I just wasn't aware of how angry he was.

Anyway, I just watched the credits for episode 1152 (or 1151?) They actually had a psychic consultant! The 80s were so weird. No wonder gen X is weird too. I embrace my weird, but I gotta call it. 

And more on weird: I love Mason. I love the quipping dude. I love the Shakespearian quotes. I loved Gina's daydream about being Frankenstein's Bride and bringing back Sonny. But it's Lane Davies as Frankenstein's Monster who sits up and quotes Richard III. Things like that are why I loved this show. 

[Liberty City]

Made it to 922: the first-part of Cruz & Eden's wedding, and I'm already over it. You can already see such a shift in the storytelling from the Dobsons to Jill Farren Phelps. A lot is missing.

[Marissa Gallant]

I'm so with you. I have been told that 89/90 have some good stuff, so I keep watching. I'm just not enjoying it like I did. 

[Carlos Abad]

Some months ago, the last episodes I saw was Kelly telling Eden and Cruz about her miscarriage.

Robin Wright and Marcy Walker delivered wonderful performances in those scenes. But everything else was so bad so I quit the show. Maybe I will try to watch again soon. But most of the stories were really bad at that time.

 

 

 

Edited July 14, 2022 by Connelly

[Keri]

It's still pretty bad. 88 and 89- I didn't mind the story with Pamela. I didn't mind the initial story with Mason going to the convent and then Julia.

 Bits and pieces of Gina and Bunny I didn't mind.

But hated everything else until Robert Barr came at the fall of 1989.

(Neutral on the rape storyline, never watched it).

Edited July 14, 2022 by Keri

[Liberty City]

I'm not enjoying it, either, and part of it is the force-feeding of Cruz & Eden, a pairing I feel nothing for.

[Contessa Donatella]

Now, that is very interesting. You're the first person I've heard of who watched SB & didn't like Cruz & Eden. They were thought to be fool-proof, basically! It's only right that there should be an "Other" option besides Fan.

[Liberty City]

I just... don't feel anything towards them. And the forced nature (via executive production and writing) is so off-putting. I found other Cruz-potential pairings and Eden-potential pairings better than this so-called love story being told. It has always been my believe Joe & Kelly should have been the soap's golden couple. But, the [mis]recast of Joe just destroyed that pairing for good.

[Contessa Donatella]

Now, you really watched what I call a "custom" version of SB since you completely blocked out the rape, the biggest storyline of, what, two years? You did yourself a favor. It is SO hard to watch.

Well, good for you. It really is a case of being force-fed! Your resistance must have been strong! SB to a large degree was couples - Cruz & Eden, Julia & Mason, Lionel & Augusta, to name some.

[Keri]

Well I'm a Cruz and Eden fan, but even I found their storylines in 88 and 89 unwatchable, until Robert came. And I hated all the sentimental stuff.

For me actually the decline in their storylines started as soon as Elena died in 1987. It was sort of this gradual slide down into crap lol.

I did also like Robert and Eden quite a lot and wish they had taken that pairing further.

Yeah that was why I skipped it, I don't usually watch stuff like that, it has an impact on me. But I may try again when I get to that point.

[Contessa Donatella]

If you think it will trigger you, it probably will. I think it is one of the most intense pieces of drama ever done for daytime.

Robert & Eden were good. Robert & Quinn was one of the fine examples of Roscoe Born's work, RIP.

[Beach Climber]

I didn’t mind Cruz/Eden but I didn’t find them compelling to watch either. They were too saccharine for me and it did seem like Eden was destined to be a messier character when she first debuted so I got bored with her after a while. When it came to the show’s bigger pairings, Mason/Julia, Lionel/Augusta, and Keith/Gina were much more fun to watch for me. 

[Contessa Donatella]

Well, it is interesting for Alt feelings about Cruz & Eden to surface! Me, I loved them but I also loved Lionel/Augusta, Mason/Julia & Keith/Gina. SB had a whole lot of people & a lot going on & I was into the whole canvas, really.

Edited July 16, 2022 by Tonksadora
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[Marissa Gallant]

I don't mind Cruz and Eden. I like them. Not a fan of baby napping, because why do ALL of the babies on this show have to be kidnapped? There's only so much babynapping that can occur before the population of a city would start electing different people. I can see Nancy and Bob Smith sitting at breakfast. She asks what is in the paper. He answers, oh the most recent Capwell kid got kidnapped. She says Really. What is that, third or forth time? He says Yeah, we need to move. 

I love Julia and Mason, Lionel and Augusta, even Kelly and Jeffrey (before TJ). My favorite is still CC and Sophia. I just don't care for the personality shift in her character. But I suppose it gave JM something to do.