Sunset Beach Discussion Thread

[DRW50]

 

Love Robin but I'm kind of leaning toward her...

[Franko]

Agreed. I don't want to assume, but it also seems the most likely scenario.

[Paul Raven]

More pre premiere coverage

 

Except for a nasty cold, Aaron Spelling couldn't be in much better spirits. He's spent most of the day in his office crammed full of wardrobe racks and cast members from Sunset Beach, the first daytime drama that Spelling Entertainment has ever done and the first daytime drama to be introduced on network TV in eight years (1989's Generations was the last-and it didn't). "We brought in 12 racks of clothes," says Spelling. "I think fashion is as important to a serial as anything else." Fashion sets the tone. It defines the palette. The length of a skirt, the style of jeans, can tell the viewer volumes about a character before the first word of dialogue is spoken.

Spelling already loves the Sunset Beach cast-their names have been added to his annual Christmas party list-and on this day he is doling out advice to them on everything from buying a new car to renting apartments to  how to handle fame, should it be lucky enough to come. He has issued his no -hair -changes dictum-Sunset cast members had better be happy with the style and color they start the show with, because Spelling isn't about to let them confuse a new audience with a makeover any time soon. It is a long-standing rule for a Spelling show, and his staff knows that he's deadly serious about it even if some of the awestruck actors don't-yet.

 

On Jan. 6, Sunset Beach will hit the air. "The series is a critical component of NBC West Coast president Don Ohlmeyer's plan to make the network's daytime schedule as potent as its prime time. NBC is in third place in daytime, though the net is up 20 percent this season and is closing in on second -place ABC. Ohlmeyer has his sights set on first, which CBS now owns. "With Sunset, we have something new and hot and exciting," Ohlmeyer says. "[In] the '80s, NBC daytime basically disintegrated. We are in the process of rebuilding, but we have to deliver the goods. That's how we've built prime time, with distinctive programming. "There hasn't been a successful soap launched in 10 years. It's very difficult to do, but with Aaron's touch and looking at the cast we have, we think it's worth the effort. Some of our affiliates are very receptive [to the show]...some, we're in the process of kidnapping their children."

 

On Stage 11 at NBC Studios in Burbank, carpenters and set designers are working late into the night to complete the sets that will form the primary backdrop for the show. The small community of Seal Beach, roughly a 90 -minute drive south of Los Angeles, has been scouted nearly grain by grain of sand. It will be the exterior home for Sunset, and unlike most daytime soaps, the location will be a frequent player. Last week, readings and the first of three weeks of shooting exteriors began. The Santa Anas--California's devil winds-stirred up the sand, making it sting on the skin. The water, which is never warm at Seal Beach, was even colder than usual. But no one was complaining.

 

The 22 actors who will give shape and form to Sunset Beach are a beautiful bunch indeed, a canvas of racial diversity plucked from the talent pool in New York, Los Angeles and other cities including Philadelphia, the hometown of Spelling Entertainment president Jonathan Levin, who went back for that casting session. They are also young faces, part of the strategy to make Sunset a daytime soap for younger viewers, to do for daytime drama what Ricki Lake did for talk, at least in terms of attracting a new audience. Spelling is considered a master at casting, instinctively knowing which faces will work together as a couple, which actors will have that all-important element of chemistry. Now the virtually unknown Sunsetters are all in front of him, many meeting for the first time, and the air is electric. "One of my favorite sports is finding new people and combining them with other people, and I had used so many people from daytime on our soaps," says Spelling, whose legacy includes such prime -time legends as Love Boat and Dynasty.

 

The company is currently on prime time with an unprecedented four dramas: Melrose Place; Beverly Hills, 90210; Savannah; and Seventh Heaven. Sunset has been 18 months in the making, and Spelling is like a proud papa, surrounded by actors whose future he has just secured. The series, which is co -owned by Spelling and NBC, has a one-year commitment from the network. That's 51 weeks of shows, 255 hour-long episodes guaranteed. "I wouldn't tell Candy, my wife, for a week after the show was sold, but my daughter Tori is a daytime addict, and she kept saying, 'Do it,"' says Spelling. With four shows already on the air, he has little time. Launching a daytime soap would siphon off even more of it. "I don't think it hit me for a while. On Melrose, we wrap on the 22nd of November and don't come back until January 5th. The actors and writers get a chance to rest. This is never-ending. But it's been a strange, great experience." Worldvision, which sells Spelling's shows internationally, already has 10 countries signed on for Sunset without one scene shot, based on a four -minute video that outlined the premise of the show and included Spelling talking about it. The foreign sales are important, as is NBC's share in the financing.

 

Mounting a daytime drama from scratch is a massive undertaking. "It requires the logistics of mounting a military campaign," says Levin. "There's huge construction, there's an enormous amount of lighting, tremendous  wardrobe problems. It's not like prime time, Daytime is an endless stream of programming that, once  begun, can't be stopped."

Ohlmeyer puts the production investment alone at about $50 million. "Then there's the cost of launch, advertising and promotion- it's a major commitment, says Tomlin."With daytime, you're not really going  to know anything concretely for 18 months. I feel we're very much on track in terms of laying out target dates, scripts in by here,  cast in place by here, task force working on clearances... to this point we're right on schedule.

 

 NBC was initially looking at four ideas,  Spelling's idea  "Melrose Place at the beach.  When they began to look seriously for a title Spelling ran a title contest in-house. The winner would get $200. There were dozens of suggestions, but the most serious contender, Never Say Goodbye, came from an unlikely source: Viacom chairman Sumner Redstone,  who suggested it during a dinner with Spelling. "I loved the name- it says romance, which this show all about," says Spelling, whose company is part of Viacom. But in testing, viewers were drawn to the "beach" motif more than anything  else, Spelling says.

 

Executive producer Gary Tomlin (Santa Barbara)and Robert Guza Jr. are the people on the front line of the creative side of Sunset Beach. The initial groundwork on the series was done by Chuck Pratt, who was an executive producer on Melrose Place, and Guza, whose work everyone knew from Spelling's Models Inc. Together they wrote a nearly 400 -page bible outlining Sunset's premise,  characters and storyline. Spelling remembers the bible for Melrose Place being closer to 40 pages.

 Unlike most daytime dramas, which tend to build their storylines around families and family rivalries, Sunset is about young singles and couples who have drawn to the town, and the relationships that emerge as the action unfolds. The producers also created an underlying mythology about the town as a place where one can find true love. "We loved the idea of creating a town and making the town a character," says Guza, who is co creator and head writer. "[With] Sunset Beach, you get to create this world and these characters, and then you get to screw up their lives." Sunset Beach is being written at a faster pace than traditional daytime dramas. It's a delicate balancing act to move action through each episode without losing the audience. "We  would love it if people watched five days a week, but they don't," says Tomlin. Three days is more typical. "We have to make certain they're able to pick up where the story  left off and that it hasn't moved so rapidly that they can't figure it out."

 

The show is also being designed to allow room for  cameos by big -name prime-time stars. Spelling wants to give viewers as compelling a reason as possible to watch Sunset. "On top of needing to have a terrific show, you are fighting against viewer habits that are long, long ingrained," says Levin. "It is very difficult to change the loyalty of the daytime viewer, and we're talking about shows that have been on for 30 years. That's one of the reasons we're targeting young viewers-they're the most available and the most flexible in their viewing habits."

Then there is the station lineup. Affiliates exert their independence far more in daytime than prime time.  NBC says that Sunset is cleared on 85 percent of its affiliates; the net expects to reach 90 percent by the premiere. With the cast now in place and the first rolls of tapes being produced the network knows that stations that are wavering at least will at least  have something concrete to see. "Will we get sufficient coverage-that's a constant battle," says Levin. "Will the local affiliates elect  to air the show in desirable timeslots that will afford us the best opportunity to be sampled? These are things we are lobbying for but ultiamately we don't control."

Spelling and NBC executives hope that Sunset Beach will be scheduled to follow Days of Our Lives, which has made a dramatic turnaround. "Over the last 18 months with that show, it's been unbelievable, going from being in the middle to the top," Ohlmeyer says. "If we can get that kind of performance from Another World-and we think we're finally on the right track there-we could have a solid three-hour block."

[MelAnnieD]

Does anyone know where I could find the music sets from SB? Ie the music that played in the background, especially Maria's theme.

[Paul Raven]

Soap Opera Weekly published character profiles before the show aired. Several characters names were changed by the time the show aired. 

Sheila Richards became Olivia.

Tomas Escobar became Ricardo Torres

Susan Cummings became Meg

Randy Mitchum became Casey

Rae Yamato became Rae Chang

Kayla Richards became Caitlyn

There was also another character named Billy Pelder aged 19 described as 'voted most likely to' in high school.

[EricMontreal22]

Does anyone buy that they really were considering keeping AW around for long?

[EricMontreal22]

Whose writing did people like the most?  I remember enjoying much of Margaret DePriest's run. 

[Ben]

Yeah, I think I liked most of her work, too. I wasn’t a fan of the teen scene and how they were written. I never really liked Ricardo’s revenge, either, and I thought they wrote Gregory into a corner. 
 

But, everything before that was great. I loved how they gave Virginia a big send off; I liked how alive Francesca felt right up until she was murdered; and I thought they gave Gregory and Annie some brillent material early on in ‘99. I adored Antonio/Gabi. I enjoyed Francesca’s murder, and I also thought the Maria/Tess/Derek stuff was great fun. 
 

I was not a fan of her decision to axe Francesca, Virginia, and Leo. The excuse they used was two many characters confusing the audience, and then they went and added in Tess and Benjy. 
 

Francesca was great. She was good at mixing it up with everybody, who could be a real bitch but also convey some sympathy. She was the sexy villainess that the show never replaced. I get that they wrote Virginia into a corner, but did she really have to be written out? Leo had a lot of potential, especially as they had the option of building up a relationship with Cole. I guess he would have been too good playing against Sean, who was letting the team down by Randy Spelling’s bad acting. 
 

I also didn’t like how they put Vanessa/Michael on the back burner and dropped Tyus to recurring, just because they wrote Virginia out. They could have picked up the aftermath with them and had Vanessa blame Michael for brining Virginia into their lives and not believing her suspicions (she moved on from the rape way too easily), and had Michael wrestle with his guilt and anger towards Vanessa for lying. Tyus could have been there as a shoulder to cry on. There was more they could have done instead of just dropping them.

 

Apart from all that, I did enjoy most of her run.

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[amybrickwallace]

 

Nope! I was surprised that they dumped it just 6 months after AW. I thought SUN would go on at least another year.

[Manny]

I think I would say Meg Bennett, I guess... simply because that middle year was my favorite...

 

I loved the Shockwave storyline and along side AMC Tornado of 94, this was my favorite soap opera disaster storyline. 

I did enjoy the start of Antonio/Gabi/Ricardo, I was into the Maria storyline (and one of my favorite cliffhangers is Maria showing up at Ben and Meg's wedding to catch the bouquet). 

 

I did hate the Rosario jewels storyline. It was so ridiculous. 

 

I felt like the first year of the show, the show was moving so fast, people were coming and going... and then the last year, it was the opposite, IMO.. it slowed down too much and I felt it dragged for too long. Event the baby switch storyline that I loved initially, was just soooo long, slow and repetitive by the time it ended. 

[LuckyBold]

 

OMG, thank you for the link! They rebroadcast SB in my country, but cbs drama went down before they'd show the last season. I watched on YouTube, but they were sadly removed... Do you have all of the episodes in one place?

 

 

[Faulkner]

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[Soaplovers]

The 1st year of any soap has a lot of changes because you have no idea what will work and not work.

 

Odd that they got rid of Paula's mom..when she could have been the local advice giver..plus with all the Cole/Olivia drama..would have been interesting to see her take of her long time friend hooking up with her long lost son.

 

I could see why Paula and tiffany were written off, plus Eddie..but killing off Mark never made sense since he and Gabi were good together...and a Ricardo/Gabi/Mark triangle would have worked..with Gabi torn between them.

[te.]

 

IIRC, they wanted to keep Virginia on in a recurring capacity, but the actress didn't want to sign such a contract.

 

I imagine they wrote Elaine off because they figured that Meg's mom could fill the same role and at the same time adding more family to the soap. Plus, I don't think Leigh Taylor-Young came that cheap either.

[titan1978]

What I remember most about Sunset Beach was I thought the cast was pretty great, with a couple of duds that were quickly rectified.  And that original theme song.  I thought it was incredible, and did not at all suit the show I was seeing.  The updated one fit much better, but I kind of always wanted that show- sexy, filled with intrigue.

 

And I have always found Gary Tomlin’s production style to look incredibly cheap, even on a Spelling show.  I think it’s the lighting he prefers.

Edited September 13, 2020 by titan1978