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Actually she was pod when she was with chris also and I think most j/e fans will agree with that. The only two men I can't stand with erica are jack and chris. I used to like j/e when I was younger but I grew up and realized how childish they were and how walt really is not leading male material. Funny how I grew up and they didn't. LMAO

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LOL, even I said that. I love how my words always get minced. And since I only think she's POD with Jack, strange that I've thought she was POD since the drinking stuff during her ruse with David. Hmmm. Yeah, whatever. I know, I'm the bad guy. Out to smear J&E every chance I get. Okay. LMFAO

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I was watching a clip on YouTube the other day of when Bianca told Erica about the rape.....

It dawned on me. Erica as a character hasn't had anything as deep as that writing since then.

I want depth more than anything and if the writing for Jack and Erica had depth I'd probably enjoy it but it has no depth what so ever. I really didn't get all giddy for their reunion because A it was plain as day the minute this new divorce started it was going to happen and B I just didn't get invested in the build up so how on earth could I see pay off in that.

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That's sort of what I mean. All of her material is fluff or supporting. Even her drinking was made into something lame with the Desiree Dubios stuff. Actually, her drinking, and her running on her own made sense, both at the same time, not so much. I remember just before MD left they were getting into the nitty grity RF stuff with Erica and Vanessa. Vanessa witnessing RF rape Erica and what not. That scene was so amazing, and I hoped we'd get something really amazing from that. But fizzled. Even New Beginnings and the few episodes they did with all those guests were lame filler stuff. Erica has been depthless for awhile now. And I think the more depth Erica has, the less childish she is. Erica and Greenlee after Leo's death was wonderful.

When I say she's pod, I don't mean it's something new, and I don't think it's all just because of Jack and her "family". That's fueling it, but she's been POD to some degree since Bianca was raped.

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LOL - ok I hate to say this to y'all - but Erica totally had depth when she found out Josh was her son during the Mardi Gras explosion storyline. The entire thing with Dr. Madden - that day when she went off on him and then Jack in her office about how he violated her body.

:ph34r:

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You totally just threw gasoline on the fire :lol:

Whatever "depth" any of that had.... was trumped by how insulting and completely damaging the character's history that plotline truly was. Sorry Andy.

Leave it you though to totally spin everything AMC does in a positive light. alwaysAMC to the bitter end and I respect that :)

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Haha - thanks. Yeah, I knew with you and Kylie especially, it would be like throwing gas on the fire....lol. I had to use it though as an example - as horrible a rewrite it was - she still had depth. You can't deny that in an objective light.

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I think Annie is tripping. Ryan is trying his best and finally starting to see where she's coming from which is why he cut Greenlee off. I wish Annie had heard him out and realized that he's 100% devoted to her and trying to put Greenlee behind him the best he can.

I wanted to smack the smugness off of Greenlee's face. I always want to smack her. I hate that Kendall is becoming friends with her again. She shouldnt trust the witch.

I hate the New Divorce story but the best part of it is defiently Pam. I love her and hope she sticks around even after its all done

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I've seen that clip, wasn't depth, was common sense. That was the one moment of realism in this entire [!@#$%^&*] fest. That was at the same time that Joe was trying to crawl up Greg's ass thinking he was God and wonderful. Don't throw "depth" and Madden at me. ;)

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Erica was okay to me until they had her sleep with Jeff, the character's been doing nonsensical or/and annoying fluff since (including that). I don't even want to remember how much months back that went. I just want an Erica back that is not acting less mature than Colby and Ava. The story isn't doing anything for Jack as well, this divorce thing is a 2 week story that went on way, way too long.

The last story Lucci had that had real depth, that gave her meat to chew on, was the Michael Cambias fall-out - May 2003 - April 2004. She's had moments of getting to be in story that she can act like an adult in since, but really just moments. And OMG since the Jeff ride, she's had 13-year old written all over her. At this point one of the primary reasons I'm looking forward to this B&E story coming up is because Erica probably will finally act like an adult for a few weeks of episodes, I hope. I'm aching to see her in something that isn't "harmless" but really ridiculous fluff. I have nothing against J/E staying together forever but not if this is the crap they're going to pass off as good couple story.

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