I don't feel for her. I'm frustrated by her.

Phyllis took such a pleasure out of torturing Sharon/Brad because of their ONS, but these days, she's a sniveling mess; smearing her mascara for sympathy. If she is going to be the baddest chick, stop with the crocdile tears. It's so weak and pretentious coming from. This bitch acted like she was entitled to judge but now that she's been caught, she wants to go back into the ocrner, waiting on someone to rescue her. The real Phyllis would fight her way out by any means necessary. Instead, she just comes off as this bi polar flake, switching personalities depending on who is taking in her performance.

Exactly, Steph!

Don't cry about it, be about it.

Phyllis is over 40 & still doin the EXACT same stuff she did 15 years ago.

That's sociopathic & pathetic.

Drucilla butted into Sharon and Phyllis' conversation. Her fault.

WORD

I'll say it now and I've said it before, LATHAM IS PATHETIC AT WRITING FOR WOMEN.

One of the few things Alden and Smith did right was their writing for Phyllis, she was fierce and strong under them. Latham has no idea where to go with such a dynamic character, which was also a problem she had with Dru.

LML is pathetic at writin for PEOPLE.

Cause Victor, Jack, Neil, Brad & the rest of the dudes don't have it no better.

Drucilla butted into Sharon and Phyllis' conversation. Her fault.

No, she didn't. Phyllis fault.

I'm pretttttttttyyyy sure she did.

Nope. She didn't.

You're entering Drucilla denial...

Nope. You're living in Phyllis FreePass Land.

COME ON NOW! You cannot sit there and tell me that Drucilla didn't butt into the argument. I seem to recall Dru's loud ass screaming at Phyllis on the way over there. Then Dru proceeded to try and grab Phyllis' phone, yes Phyllis' property, and her ass got sent over the cliff. Her actions. Her fault.

I like Dru and Sharon and hate Phyllis but IA, that Phyllis wasnt responsible for the actual fall. She may have instigated teh circumstances which led to it, but she did not cause the actual fall. IA with the fact that Dru caused her own death. She died not even knowing what the hell she was fighting about. She went and grabbed the phone and had no idea why she was doing it. All she saw was Phyllis and Shaorn fighting and immediately marched over there and started tugging at a phone that wasnt hers without getting all the facts right next to the edge of a cliff no less. The phone belonged to Phyllis. No one had a right to lay their hands on her or her property. Technically that could be considered assault in the eyes of the law. Im trying to be unbiased her bc I hate the bitch but as teh scene was written, she didnt cause the fall.

It's Phyllis fault.

Regardless of what HAPPENED durin the altercation, Phyllis is the one who brought a personal situation to work & continued to instigate it.

So anything that happened afterward is a direct result of that. Hence it's HER fault.

Edited May 8, 200718 yr by DeeeDee

Dru falling off the cliff was an accident, imo. However, Phyllis is responsible for set off the chain of events that led to the argument with Sharon on the cliff.

After today's show, all I can say is that Y&R is a hot mess. There isn't much on this show that makes a lick of sense. I watched today's show in 5 minutes, if that much.

The characters are now there to serve the plot. There is absolutely no character development whatsoever.

Agreed. The characters are running around like chickens without heads doing things that make me scratch my head. If they keep this up, I'll stop caring about the characters completely and find something else to do with my time.

Dru falling off the cliff was an accident, imo. However, Phyllis is responsible for set off the chain of events that led to the argument with Sharon on the cliff.

Agreed.

After today's show, all I can say is that Y&R is a hot mess. There isn't much on this show that makes a lick of sense. I watched today's show in 5 minutes, if that much.

Pretty much.

Agreed. The characters are running around like chickens without heads doing things that make me scratch my head. If they keep this up, I'll stop caring about the characters completely and find something else to do with my time.

Y&R is GH!Lite.

Eh No.

She calmly WALKED over (after endin HER call on HER phone) & asked what was goin on.

Then as Sharon & she started grabbin the phone when Phyllis begin to dial Jack (which she had been threatenin to do after Drucilla refused to allow her to intimidate Sharon in any other manner)

Phyllis then began pullin backwards causin the other two to go over the cliff.

Phyllis actions. Phyllis fault.

Period.

I see now I must get a different feed than you. Dru was on the phone with Neil and saw Sharon and Phyllis arguing. She then handed the phone to Lily and said "Here, talk to your daddy". Sharon grabbed Phyllis' phone and they were pulling back and forth over it. Dru came over screaming "Let go Sharon" and then grabbed Sharon's arm pulling her back. Phyllis fell backwards and so did Dru and Sharon. Now, from that viewpoint, Dru caused her own death by once again putting her nose where it didn't belong.

As creator of the thread and as SON staff, let's keep the debate going in a fun manner.... I know all of you love hashing out about the Dru/Phyllis stuff; so keep it going, but please respect other views.

Okay, enough of that... When is Victoria going to wake the hell up and drop that chump Brad and start being a true Newman? Shoot, if Nikki is taking her tips from TGVN, then daughter better be following suit and rather quick

I see now I must get a different feed than you. Dru was on the phone with Neil and saw Sharon and Phyllis arguing. She then handed the phone to Lily and said "Here, talk to your daddy". Sharon grabbed Phyllis' phone and they were pulling back and forth over it. Dru came over screaming "Let go Sharon" and then grabbed Sharon's arm pulling her back. Phyllis fell backwards and so did Dru and Sharon. Now, from that viewpoint, Dru caused her own death by once again putting her nose where it didn't belong.

No.

Drucilla gave the phone to Christel Khalil after seein Sharon & Phyllis arguin.

She then WALKED over & asked what was goin on.

Immediately after that, Sharon grabbed for the phone and SHARON & PHYLLIS began raisin their voices & then Dru.

And while Sharon was tuggin on the phone, Dru grabbed Phyllis arm/the phone & Phyllis tugged back causin herself to fall backward to the ground while Dru & Sharon went over the cliff.

So if anything it was an accident but if ANYONE is to be blamed it's PHYLLIS.

Edited May 8, 200718 yr by DeeeDee