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Many people recognize Kim Zimmer/Reva of GL, as well as Susan Lucci, and some of the others mentioned. Sometimes the big names become an albatross. They eat up a lot of the salaries for one thing. I don't know, but it doesn't make any sense to me that a show will stay on the air because of an actor.

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I think GL and ATWT are pop culture icons simply because they've been around so long. They might not be so popular now among actual soap fans, but outside of soaps, people recognize their titles. Might not be able to name specific characters and storylines, etc, but their titles are iconic. Soap parodies are gonna almost always be named after AMC, Y&R, or ATWT.

Really, all soaps have something that makes them popular outside of the genre. ATWT and GL, for their sheer longevity. GH of course for Luke and Laura. Y&R for Victor and Nikki, AMC for Erica, B&B for it's focus on fashion, DAYS for the hourglass and supercouples, PSNS for the simple fact that it's new and so bizarre. Even OLTL, which I've always thought of as "the forgotten soap," has the whole Karen Wolek thing from the 70s.

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Yeah JER will probably avoid the issue.

He did a Passions preview in June in TV Guide and didn't mention anything about being fired from Days so I don't expect anything but him hyping the end and what is coming, if we get anything at all.

I am very interested in his honest reactions to what has happened to him in the past year but, unless we were flies on the wall, we will never know. I don't think he gives a damn about Passions since he got fired from days. That much has shwoed in the last few months of stuff he has wrote.

Kevin Reilly has been an advocate for keeping Days around. I remember at the 40th anniversary party he said he was going to work with Corday and Sony on keeping the franchise alive and also making it better financially for everyone. I think they thought Hogan would make a bigger impact on the numbers right away. The impact is just starting to be felt now so, hopefully, affiliates don't start dropping Days with all this news coming out and, hopefully, fans invest and maybe we can get these ratings up so NBC considers keeping it or, at the very least, we make it so that another network will definitely want it.

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When Days is done, here's how it should go.

The final scene should definitely be in the Horton living room, filled with the whole cast. All the Bradys and all the Hortons... maybe they're having a party or something. Maybe a big wedding reception, who knows. Anyway, the room should be filled with all the Bradys and Hortons (and others), and as with any soap finale, they should bring back beloved fan favorites from the past to partake in the farewell.

Then we should fade up to Alice's bedroom (Frances Reid might not still be with us, sadly) as we see a picture of Tom and Alice on the nightstand with an hourglass beside it... as the final grains of sand run through. Then, fade to black... the end.

Damn, I wish I could write it!

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It's funny you should say that about JER, Phoenix, because I don't think it's TOO far out of the realm of possibility -- the chance that he'll talk.

I DISTINCTLY remember -- from back when I was obsessed with "Passions" in 1999, 2000 and 2001, when I literally bought every issue of TV Guide and collected soap clippings with "Passions" articles, lol -- JER mentioning something about how he would accept the time he burns out, to be shipped off to an island with all past soap hacks. I may still have the article, circa 2000, in my "big box o' 'PASSIONS' " but I'll have to search for that tomorrow.

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That seems an incredibly dumb statement for Zucker to make. Either NBC want to save DAYS or they don't. If they do, why make a statement that encourages viewers to dis-invest in the show? If they don't, why keep it on the air for the next two years? I fail to see the logic.

Also, why mention the internet option for Passions and not for DAYS? I think DAYS as an internet soap has huge potential. If they could get just 500,000 viewers to pay $1 per episode, that would generate revenue of $125 million...above the current license fee. There is a substantial presence of DAYS fans on the web so I think it's achievable. I know SONY tried to stream shows online a few years ago and then dropped it, but it would be different if the show isn't on a regular network. They could also use the web to tap into the foreign market. DAYS is popular in Australia, South Africa and several European countries. There's also the fact that DAYS is the most searched-for television show on YAHOO...that alone would give it appeal to advertisers.

Ugh...I hate NBC. :angry:

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There is no logic to it, Ponz.

The reason why they are willing to give Passions more options is because it's cheaper to produce and NBC owns it. They loved Days when it was raking in the dough but now that it's lost so much viewership like other soaps they could care less. It's the old "what have you one for me me lately" principle. I'm not even sure if they would keep it if Days' ratings improved. Zucker's statement reaked off "we are sick of having you here and paying to have you here so we are letting you know that your time is running out." It's sabotoge IMO. They no longer even care in a way if Days does well. They no longer want any soap there. I think their plan was if Hogan made a huge impact right away they would consider keeping it but I think NBC has now already chose to get out of the soap genre for good now, regardless of what happens. That statement was completely insensitive and stupid. Now affiliates can drop it and new fans won't check it out. It will be hard to bring anyone back to the show now. At least Kevin Reilly didn't condemn it. Zucker's plan is clear in my mind-sabotoge it to make sure it doesn't reach better ratings and screw up my plans.

As I said in my last post, Kevin Reilly has supported Days. He weas at the 40th anniversary party and was committed to working with Sony and Corday on keeping the show alive. Zucker doesn't give a rat's ass and is already planning what to put on in it's place.

Seriously, I am glad that Zucker said that in a way because it gives fans time to bash the hell out of NBC and it gives days and Corday time to work through the process of a new home. I think Corday is so pissed he is probably already looking into it and I don't blame him. it's clear NBC no longer welcomes Days and you don't stay where you aren't welcome.

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ONE NIGHT STAND    (Never Officially Opened)  10/25/1980   Amanda Klein SHAKESPEARE'S CABARET   1/21/1981 - 3/8/1981    Catherine BABY     12/4/1983  - 7/1/1984    Pam Sakarian    **** DRAMA DESK AWARD WINNER -- OUTSTANDING ACTRESS IN A MUSICAL OH COWARD!    11/17/1986 - 1/3/1987       **** TONY AWARD NOMINEE -- BEST ACTRESS N A MUSICAL RUMORS     11/17/1988 - 2/24/1990    Replacement -- Chris Gorman FOOTLOOSE    10/22/1998 - 7/2/2000      Ethel McCormack TOURING GODSPELL    10/22/1972 - 7/28/1973       Understudy GODSPELL   9/10/1973 - 6/23/1974   Performer GODSPELL     1976 " Bless the Lord"        National Tour MUSIC IS   1976      Viola       National Tur SIDE BY SIDE BY SONDHEIM     1979 STARTING HERE, STARTING NOW CITY OF ANGELS   7/4/1991 - 11/24/1992     Replacement -- Oolie; Donna THEATER COMPANY     1977     Amy    Heinz Hall    Pittsburgh, PA RAP MASTER RONNIE    1984                Village Gate Upstairs IN TROUSERS     1985      His Wife    Promenade Theatre WONDERFUL TOWN    1988      Ruth Sherwood    Goodspeed Opera House    East Haddam, CT THE WAVES     1990    Rhoda    New York Theatre Workshop GODSPELL    2000  York Theatre   NYC HOT AND SWEET    (Staged Reading)   2000    Dodge Stages   NYC ANNIE      2002     Miss Hannigan    Paper Mill Playhouse   Millburn, NJ MEMPHIS      (World Premiere)  2003    Ensemble; Susie; Patti Page; Clara   Understudy -- Gladys Calhoun   North Shore Music Theatre    Beverly, MA MAME     2004   Mame Dennis    Merry Go Round Players     Auburn, NY RICHARD CORY     2005     Mrs. Baker    NY Musical Theatre Festival Production INSPECTING CAROL     2006     Zorah Bloch      George Street Playhouse   New Brunswick, NJ MARRIED ALIVE!      2008      Diane     Gulfshore Playhouse     Naples, FL MEMORY IS THE MOTHER OF ALL WISDOM    2009     Mother    Barrington Stage Company Stage II     Pittsfield, MA THE MEMORY SHOW     2010     Mother     Barrington Stage Company Stage II     Pittsfield, MA VOTE FOR ME: A MUSICAL DEBATE      2010    Governor Janet Tilghman    Urban Stages Theater   NYC FLAMBE DREAMS   2012     Elaine Christiansen     45th Street Theatre THE MEMORY SHOW     2013    Mother   The Duke on 42nd Street BY STROUSE IT'S BETTER WITH A BAND SWING SHIFT!      Vera       Theatre by the Sea Marriages      Keith Hermann   ???? - ????       Divorced      David Evans     1986 - Present    2 Children     THE ORIGINAL ARTICULETTE         SHERITA BOLDEN   BEYOND THE GATES     Barbara that founded the Articulettes   (v)  6/3/2025              Works Behind the Scenes as a Booth Production Assistant     2025 PodCast THE YATRA SISTERS     Co-Host and Organizer       DETECTING LESLIE'S IMAGE?           DREY WIGFALL     Born   Andre DeShawn Wigfall                  6/25/1981 - Present BEYOND THE GATES    D. C. Metro Analyst -- Detective __ Walker    6/2/2025 and YO MOMMA      Self           2006   ALL THE QUEEN'S MEN      Officer Green    2023 movies SOLICIT BEHAVIOR     Mr. Young     2007    (Made for T. V.) KISSING STRANGERS    Jeff     2010 THE CANADOO   Derrick     2016 A SOUL BURDENED    Corporal Marcus Andre Hughes    2021 IT HAPPENED IN THE 4TH QUARTER   Mr. Gaines    2023 THE COMEBACK     Paul    2023 ZOMBIE VIRAL STUDIO     RADIO SLAVERY: THE MAKING OF AMERICA Upcoming MEND      TBA    Pre Production THEATER IN THE BLOOD           University of South Carolina MA RAINEY'S BLACK BOTTOM     Trustus Theatre         FOUND KAT LURKING                RICH LOWE       Also Credited as  Rich Lowe Ikenna           8/10/1987 - Present BEYOND THE GATES     Darius -- Hotel Employee   6/6/2025 and BUBBLY BROWN SUGAR      Caleb     2018 Upcoming INTERTWINED PROOF OF CONCEPT     David     TBA     Pre Production movies SEVEN MILES FROM FOREVER    Joshua Wright     VERA'S HOLIDAY FLOP       Ex-Husband      THE LEAST OF ALL     Matthew Reynolds    2017 THE GREAT WAR     Corporal Johnson    2019 HYPOCRITE     Eddie Ogden    2019 THE ORATORY     2021 HEARTBEAT   Cliff     2022 COME OUT FIGHTING   Private Michael "Salty" Buttons     2022 Upcoming    LIONEL       TBA     Completed THEATER THE ROYALE     2017     Fish      Raymond James Theatre     Saint Petersburg, FL         E. M. T.                       NILES AUSTIN      1/8/1994 - Present BEYOND THE GATES      E. M. T.     4/17/2025; 6/6/2025 Appeared on the series SINS OF THE CITY (2023). movies SIGNUM    Michael   2024 Currently working as a studio assistant at Dream Inc.  BTG Recurring actress Jerri Tubbs works there as an Instructor.           Kenjah  (McNeil)    pg. 445 BEYOND THE GATES     Dr. Madison Montgomery     6/4/2025 - Present   Adam Chambers    pg. 445 DAYS OF OUR LIVES     Dave the Skydiving Instructor           June 6,  2025 Leann Hunley       pg. 425   DAYS OF OUR LIVES     Anna Fredericks Brady DiMera    8/2/1982 - 7/10/1986; 6/21/2007 - 4/2/2009; 12/10/2009- 6/5/2010; 1/9/2017 - 2/16/2017; 1/5/2018 - 2/14/2018; 8/9/2019 -  4/21/2020; 12/18/2020 - 5/31/2023;   6/6/2025 - Present     One more on the way!      
    • Oh wow. After reading your post, I realized that they had "Carl Ivati" in the script AGAIN yesterday June 6.    Eva said she was reading his latest, and Tomas said "Work's been so busy, I haven't had time to get into his new series". Then Eva proceeds to tell him that "the first book is called 'Mercy and Goodness' and it's all about how the couple first met and how they got separated".   She goes on and on about how great it is. And she says she has the book in her hotel room if he wants to borrow it. She says it has twists and turns. And meanwhile Kat is snooping in Eva's room to look for the helmet and gloves, and finds the book and dismisses it as "basic". I saw that whole scene -- but I wasn't paying attention to the name of the author.  And when Tomas said the name, I heard it in his accent so I didn't hear "carlivati".  II was mainly trying to see if the acting had improved with the actor playing Tomas, and I think he has improved somewhat.   I only see it when typed out. So they had several scenes yesterday about a "Carl Ivati" book?  Barf! Well at least Kat had the good sense to dismiss it as "basic". Ron Carlivati wrote the breakdown yesterday!   Featuring himself in it! Addressing to the collective "you" whoever you may be: Some of you, months ago, said Oh Ron is only doing breakdowns.  The story comes from MVJ, so he won't influence things, you said. May 27 started it, with Christopher Dunn breakdown and Lynn Martin script. But they didn't need to continue it June 6 with Carlivati breakdown and Jazmen Darnell Brown script.
    • I was completely lost. But it is wonderful that it exists. I didn't really know Robert Mandan had done soaps...well, besides SOAP.
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