Listen, peeps, we can argue about this all day and all night, but the bottom line is that the shows with low total viewers and low HH's get cancelled. Fact of life.

I have no reason to doubt anything my source says/knows since everything he/she tells me about CBS soaps happens two months later.

Edited January 4, 200718 yr by King

Listen, peeps, we can argue about this all day and all night, but the bottom line is that the shows with low total viewers and low HH's get cancelled. Fact of life.

I have no reason to doubt anything my source knows since everything tell me about CBS soaps happen two months later.

Exactly, and NBC will cancel Passions whether or not the demos are high for the Today show. I think it is better to do something about it instead of arguing back and forth.

Listen, peeps, we can argue about this all day and all night, but the bottom line is that the shows with low total viewers and low HH's get cancelled. Fact of life.

Cancellations happen for a variety of reasons. What are good numbers for one show could be crap for another if their budget is bigger, like Smith, whose budget was pretty big from what I hear.

Agreed, suds. It's going to take one of JER's PSNS miracles to save the show now, be it 2007 or 2008, I think the show is pretty much cooked.

Weird. Because my friend who works at CBS is saying what I am saying.

But anyhoo, if demos are what mattered most, then PSNS wouldn't have a problem now would it, Ricky?

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Not True

If it were true then please explain why ABC cancelled 'Crumbs' which was getting great HH numbers but sucked in demos. Or how about CBS's Out Of Practice which was cancelled because of poor 18-49 numbers even though the show was getting better HH ratings than Old Christine. And most recently "Smith" which had good HH's but terrible demos

18-49 are your make or break numbers no matter if it's daytime or primetime.

I don't see that Passions is doing well in the 18-49 demo since they're always near the bottom in that demo. They're sometimes 2nd in the 18-34 demo but looking back at the ratings, Passions is usually #7 or #8 in the 18-49 so if 18-49 makes or breaks a show it doesn't look that good for Passions for the demos either.

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I leave for a day and this thread increases by twenty one pages! WHAT ON EARTH HAPPENED?!

Cancellations happen for a variety of reasons. What are good numbers for one show could be crap for another if their budget is bigger, like Smith, whose budget was pretty big from what I hear.

when 50% of your daytime lineup is in the toilet ratings wise ... then yes, it does matter. What you're arguing is primetime shows, which does not apply here. You can have one or two uncessfull shows, because you have like 20 others to back up your lineup. NBC has half of its daytime lineup invested in something that does nothing for them critically or in ratings.

The only reason I would want to see Passions stay, is because of Days and it being alone in the afternoon makes it very vulnerable to NBC just axing the entire lineup. But Passions is crap. Has always been crap. Has had soooo many chances to improve and learn from their mistakes, but hasn't bothered. It's gotten cocky, like JER, when it has no grounds to be so (also .. like JER)

Edited January 4, 200718 yr by Drew

Would ratings have increased if JER had reunited Ethan/Theresa and Sheridan/Luis over the past 6 months and not destroyed Fox/Kay and Fancy/Noah?

I know very little about network/local affiliate programming, but I have a question. In light of the news today that Megan Mullally's show has been cancelled, which at least in Chicago aired on our NBC affiliate at noon, will this affect the Today Show/Passions situation? Looks like there's a free hour up for grabs.

Would ratings have increased if JER had reunited Ethan/Theresa and Sheridan/Luis over the past 6 months and not destroyed Fox/Kay and Fancy/Noah?

The problem with Passions goes much deeper than that. Much, much deeper.

I leave for a day and this thread increases by twenty one pages! WHAT ON EARTH HAPPENED?!

The SON membership proved how [NAME NOT ALLOWED] "Passions" is, that's what happened.

You said it. THIS many pages in such a short amount of time.

"Passions" can still draw buzz.

The SON membership proved how [NAME NOT ALLOWED] "Passions" is, that's what happened.

You said it. THIS many pages in such a short amount of time.

"Passions" can still draw buzz.

I don't have time to read up on all those pages....so will you answer my question that I asked pages ago, how can I help with the save Passions thing? You may have answered, but I just didn't see it because of all the pages!