I can't see ATWT going anywhere anytime soon. GL on the other hand, has been, IMO, bad for years. IF a soap needs to go, GL will definitely go first. ATWT has good rating and always gets the Emmys.

I think many people would agree that cancelling Santa Barbara was a mistake and the show should've been given another shot.

I think there'd be mixed feelings about Santa Barbara's last couple of years on air. They were clearly doing better than the bottom-rating soaps at the time however. But of course, NBC could be seen as stuffing up what was a good thing in the late 80s- the three-hour soap block of Days, AW and SB which is now called the "Silver Age"...

As for Capitol, the show was cancelled while it was still very successful only to make room for B&B.

Indeed, even though Capitol replaced Search For Tomorrow in CBS' lineup- and SFT was still garnering very decent ratings right until CBS ditched it. Which was arguably the network's biggest mistake with its Daytime lineup, IMHO. Capitol did very well in its first couple of years but fell back a bit after then.

Ryan's Hope had strong ratings (and tons of Emmy support) until they gave Loving it's timeslot and moved it to 12 pm when most local stations air the news. Because of this the ratings severely dropped, but I don't think that's the fault of the show.

Ryan's Hope had strong ratings until 1982, when they began to slip. The change in timeslot took place in 1984, about a year after Loving debuted. Loving notched up to a comfortable 10th and stayed there for a couple of years.

Worth noting that in 1988, Hellen Gallagher won a Daytime Emmy... and later that year, Ryan's Hope was cancelled and last aired early the following year. In its last year, the numbers they were getting were terrible even by today's lower standards. Santa Barbara was still winning Emmys just a few years before cancellation, and Another World scooped two (Charles Keating and Anna Holbrook) in 1996- only 3 years before AW was cancelled.

I think Ryan's Hope's 1982 slip was when Claire Labine was fired and they tried to turn the show into General Hospital. I also know there was a large controversy when they stopped featuring the Ryan's and it became Kirkland's Hope. But I do believe that had they not changed the timeslot it could've rebounded with the ratings.

They replaced Barker on the daytime version once before, and the show did well in the ratings. Many people wanted Barker back but he was only doing the primetime version of the show at the time, while Doug Davidson of Y&R was given the daytime version.

The show still did pretty good in the ratings with Davidson as host. I know that many fans did not like Davidson as much as they did Barker, but my Mom and I both felt he did a pretty good job. Davidson has a really good sense of humor, and had good rapport to me with the contestants.

NOT TRUE, IIRC. Barker has ALWAYS hosted the daytime version. There were two attempts at Syndicated TPIR, one in the early 80's with Tom Kennedy and one in 1995 with Doug Davidson.

And if you are talking about Davidson's stint on the half-hour syndie TPIR, that was an embarassing, low-rated flop.

And NO to whoever wants Rich Fields. He's a terrible, generic announcer. Todd Newton all the way baby!

And I don't think CBS Daytime will experience a sharp drop in the ratings, IF and ONLY IF they pick a great host to replace Bob. If not, then it's over.

And a new soap by Brad Bell, owned by NBC? Say it ain't so!

Maybe he can stop butchering B&B.

NOT TRUE, IIRC. Barker has ALWAYS hosted the daytime version. There were two attempts at Syndicated TPIR, one in the early 80's with Tom Kennedy and one in 1995 with Doug Davidson.

There was an even earlier syndication attempt in the mid 70's with Dennis James (who gave slobbery kisses to all the women)

It just amazes me that these shows have lived so long as it is!

1. Guiding Light (1952) -- after being on the radio since the 1930s

2. As the World Turns (1956)

3. General Hospital (1963)

4. Days of our Lives (1965)

5. One Life to Life (1968)

6. All My Children (1970)

7. The Young and the Restless (1973)

8. The Bold and the Beautiful (1987)

9. Passions (1999)

DAYS turns 41 years old next week!

ATWT is nowhere near cancellation. I think PRICE IS RIGHT will not be cancelled either, it's too successful. CBS will very likely get a new host to replace Bob Barker. GL might be canned. I hope I'm wrong, but AMC & ONE LIFE may be gone in 3 years if things don't change (maybe sooner).

I'm not worried too much about Y&R because I never watch TPIR, I watch Y&R only and I record it and watch it after I get home from work. Those that are already hooked on the show will continue to watch it and I can't see anyone going "oh wow, TPIR is gone so I won't watch Y&R anymore either" that's just silly to me.

Mulder! I agree! With all the people jumping ship from AMC I can't see it rebounding from the losses.

To be honest, I think TPIR will be alright without Bob. The ratings may dip some, but the show has a built-in audience outside of its host. They'll do alright.

As for Santa Barbara's last year on the air, yeah, it completely sucked, but it was SANTA BARBARA for crap's sake- all the show needed was A & Marcy back and that could've been accomplished, especially when you consider that in the fall of '93, Marcy joined 'Guiding Light.' The show was certainly killed before its time- and it didn't help that many affiliates moved it to early morning or late night (2 AM) slots. That being considered, the show was putting up more than respectable numbers it's last months on the air (the high 2s/low 3s? for a show that 1/2 the country was airing at 2 AM- beyond respectable). I think had the show's vision not been so out of whack at the time, the network would have stuck with it. It still pisses me off that nobody bothered to try to get A & Marcy to return for the finale (both were willing), and Cruz & Eden weren't even mentioned in the last episodes that aired. It was a slap in the face to the devoted fans of the show.

I miss the NBC silver age of Days, AW, SB. Hell, at the time, DAYS was my least fave of the three.

PSNS should be the next to go. It's showing no promise and has been given SO many chances.

Well, then, NBC' s foolish because it hit the gold mine with "Passions."

True, it's not at it sbest (it's getting better, you can tell), but the network could find NO new soap with better potential and marketability than this show which could appeal to all ages with the traditional soap themes, supernatural elements, quirky, fun characters, sweeping love stories and crossover Internet schemes to streamline revenues. They better just work with JER to retool. Although I would only say the show needs to speed things up, amp up. And heck, the network COULD promote the show better. I remember when all we got were 20 second promos. maybe they air them in primetime, but it's pretty crappy when weekly, all we get during the daypart is ONE 10-second, blink-and-you-missed it promo during "Days." That has NO effect whatsoever. I wonder if they get that.

PASSIONS has been on the air for count 'em----7 going on 8 years.

They've never once produced a decent total viewers rating.

The show has always been DEAD LAST in the ratings.

The show is also the laughing stock of the whole industry. The most critically de-claimed soap in history.

The central problem is most likely James Reilly. He's over sixty years old and he's got a "Dr. NO" fixation that won't quit.

NBC is tired of waiting on a "cult show" to take off in the ratings. It would be different if this show had the success of Dark Shadows or other cult hits. But it doesn't.

The more DAYS rises, the more NBC is ready to replace PASSIONS with something more compatible with DAYS.

Brad Bell has the #2 soap on the air and knows how to hire good talented soap oriented people. He could create a very good 1 hour soap for NBC and Executive Produce it with someone else HW. It would probably get better ratings than PASSIONS right away.

Considering that Kevin Reilly just announced that NBC is cutting their prime-time line-up and won't have drama or comedies air in the eight o'clock hour as a way of saving money, I don't see them investing in a new soap.

Considering that Kevin Reilly just announced that NBC is cutting their prime-time line-up and won't have drama or comedies air in the eight o'clock hour as a way of saving money, I don't see them investing in a new soap.

The money NBC spends to produce "PASSIONS" could be used to produce a new soap.

It's not like they'd be ADDING a soap along with DAYS and PASSIONS. They'd be REPLACING a soap.

At this point my feeling is that any one hour soap that's cancelled should be replaced by 2 half hour soaps.

Are you an insider at CBS Max?

Barker's retirement is something that CBS has said they have been working on for years. In a realationship like that of CBS and Barker, you know they talk and plan.

Sure, TPIR will suffer some from Barker leaving, but I can not even think how you would be able to comment on its cancellation.

This is the one thing that makes these boards horrible is the rumors and non-fact that is spread by people.