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Y&R: Discussion for the Week of September 25th

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Now they pull out the grieving widow card! Puh-leeze! :rolleyes:

Die. Gloria. Die.

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Let me add this, Katherine is an old !@#$%^&*]. You can't tell me that her actions aren't personal in that she tries her best not to sell Jack this company, and that she is willing to do over her grandson in his inheritance. The way that the "ghost" of John brought up Katherine being a family friend. She is no friend to them. Her actions prove that. She goes out of her way to be an evil old !@#$%^&*] and stick up for Gloria to the point of stupidity, yet she is sooo savvy and knowledgeable. Kevin and Gloria are company executives, but her grandson is working in the mailroom. No wonder Jabot is falling apart, I bet the other people who have worked at Jabot for years are flabbergasted that this golddiggin !@#$%^&*] and her sons are taking over through Katherine's stupidity.

And Yes, Casey I am with you, Michael needs to lose his damn license, what he did to Jack in the skin cream case and what is continuing to do is criminal.

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OMG! Some one wake me up when the Fishers/Baldwin are not able to get over on EVERYONE and EVERYBODY in town.

Someone let me know when everyone else buys a clue and runs these people out of town with pitchforks!

I can not believe this mess right now. It's pretty much unbelievable at this point...I am convinced that we're being punked and by November all of the Fishers/Baldwin will get their comeuppence.

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Well, I love John's visits with Jack so far and I hope he bugs the hell out of him all the way through eternity. Jack has become a man I simply cannot stand and I've never felt that way. He's always been underhanded and sneaky but he's always had a sympathetic quality to him. Now he's completely gone over the edge. If he thinks in his warped brain that he's honoring his father with his actions then he's crazier than even I think he is.

Can't really blame Neil for not picking up his phone. I wouldn't want to talk to Dru either.

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Okay umm Kevin saying "we're the good guys." STFU. There is no good guys on either side. Doing all this for GLORIA is pretty fricking pathetic IMO.

I was cheering on Billy today...if a better actor was in the role I would've probably cheered louder though.

VR kicks ass and if her peers don't nominate her this year...then there is some SERIOUS haters on that staff.

I didn't see Gloria as the grieving widow AT ALL...the background music used and JC portrayal did NOT show "grieving widow" at all, just a lusting Glodigger.

Looking forward to Kay/Jack tomorrow. Peter and Jeanne Rock together.

BTW I'm liking the Newman family more and more...corny jokes and all. MTS loves to do comedy so it's nice to see those at times.

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Ugh. I know. That God damn reliquary is back. I feel like I am in history class!

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They have turned Katherine into some uncaring woman that could care less about the feelings of her dearest friend's children....If the ghost of John should be making any appearances to anyone, it should be her....I think she's been listening to Michael and Gloria all the time, she would have the common sense to know when she's being played, and Jack's not the only one that's doing so.

Jack was stupid to meet Mr. Nair at Jabot right after his meeting with Katherine....I wanted to hang Kevin by the tie he was wearing....getting sicker by the minute of Kevin walking like his stuff don't stink...also sick of Michael going around slamming Jack for breaking rules, when his butt has spent more time kissing his momma's butt and conniving Katherine; I hope he loses not only Lauren, but his career as well. Maybe then he'll realize what a fool he was.

Love seeing Dru...Oh, I guess now that Devon is in the hospital, Neil is going to be the doting father, being at his bedside....he should have been there for his family way before tragedy happened...instead he was lying through his teeth to everyone that knew the real deal about him and his hot tamale Carmen.

Gloria is simply and utterly sickening to me. "Booo Hooo...I know John would have wanted me to be rich." Boooo Hooo, "If I had the money I would buy Jabot, it's the only thing of John I have left." Bug Eyed heifer needs to save the drama and the fake tears....already "grieving and bawling" on Will's shoulder.

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They have turned Katherine into some uncaring woman that could care less about the feelings of her dearest friend's children....If the ghost of John should be making any appearances to anyone, it should be her....

Love seeing Dru...Oh, I guess now that Devon is in the hospital, Neil is going to be the doting father, being at his bedside....he should have been there for his family way before tragedy happened...instead he was lying through his teeth to everyone that knew the real deal about him and his hot tamale Carmen.

Gloria is simply and utterly sickening to me. "Booo Hooo...I know John would have wanted me to be rich." Boooo Hooo, "If I had the money I would buy Jabot, it's the only thing of John I have left." Bug Eyed heifer needs to save the drama and the fake tears....already "grieving and bawling" on Will's shoulder.

Girl, say all of that again. Loved all of your points but these I had to highlight this. I actually think Jeanne Cooper is pissed about the dumbing down of Katherine. When they were all on Soap Net, I noticed a little ice from Jeanne in the direction of Judith Chapman.

Neil is definitley a complete jerk. I've never liked his relationship with Devon, because I found the way he finally accepted him into the fold to be entirely fake. Seemed like he did it to me because he wanted to have someone else around to !@#$%^&*] about Dru to.

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I disagree with the suggestion that Katherine is being a bitch in regards to Jack. I think she would sell the company to him in a heartbeat, but legally she can't. What needs to be done is a reveal that GLORIA, not Jack, destroyed Jabot so she can willingly sell the company to him. You can't expect the woman to read minds. I do agree that she and Jill shouldn't be chummy with her (you can tell Jill is coming to her senses), but I don't see how they could figure out about the skin cream truth.

VR kicks ass and if her peers don't nominate her this year...then there is some SERIOUS haters on that staff.

She kills me everyday! I want Davetta and Rowell nominated, but I'm pretty sure now that Davetta was fired nobody will vote for her. But Rowell is a MUST!

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What they need to do is wise Katherine up to Michael as well...not only does Gloria need to be exposed in the presence of Katherine, but Michael and Kevin as well....BIG TIME...I just have a sick feeling that the only ones that are going to get burned are Michael and Kevin, while they write Gloria as the poor, misunderstood woman that simply 'loved' John... :rolleyes:

I noticed how they had John blame all on Michael regarding the return of Tom Fisher, even though Gloria was in the know the same time as Michael was...and I imagine when Katherine and Jill learn the truth about GloHo sabotaging Jabot, the glares will be in the direction of Michael, who sat there giving legal advice, all the while knowing who sabotaged the face cream and inadvertantly killed an employee's wife, and in the direction of Kevin, who despite telling Gloria she was in the wrong, still went along with it anyways.

Quite sad that they keep all this from being revealed, but continue to pimp Gloria like this saint.

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Dare I say that nuBilly kind of loosened up today and did a good job?

I liked him today, and it was nice to see his facial expressions change too..........

STFU Georgie!!!!!!

If I was Victoria I'd be on BC too, and Georgie's little tantrum over her being on BC was kinda laughable to me......I guess in his mind she's supposed to be jumping at the chance to have his baby, even though she only recently found out about his secret past; and watched him kill a man with his thighs...... :rolleyes:

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Billy's portrayer loosens up around Peter Bergman more than ANYONE else. I think it's Peter that brings out the best in him, most of the time he appears stoned.

I swear, I can not take Kevin's smirk anymore...it bothered me on Dawson's Creek and it bothers me here.

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I'm not saying he doesn't deserve it, but why does Ghost John only appear to Jack? I would LMAO if he appeared to GloHo one day, telling her he knows all about the skin cream....her big ole eyes would pop out of her head, for sure! :lol::lol:

And another thing, if Kevin has the qualifications to be an "executive," I should be the damn CEO! :rolleyes:

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Because it's Jack's conscience...not really a ghost.

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I think that Jack is playing everyone, including Kevin and Michael.....

Here's why I think that:

Jack was the one that set up E.F.O. correct? If so, he can simply make up where the company was located, pretend that he went there on business, using Sharon as an alibi. Jack is not THAT stupid to not know that Michael is on him like white on rice to keep his mummy protected.

So, while Jack is sending fake emails to himself from E.F.O, he's setting up Michael and Kevin to 'expose' him to Katherine, which of course would make her angry enough to sell the company to Raaz Cosmetics, which would go directly to Jack. Jack just screwed a lot of folks....Screwed Victor out of the money, screwed with Michael and Kevin because he knows they are two gossipy hens, and will tell all to Katherine, and he's screwed Katherine to make her of course suspect him of dirty deeds, to turn around and sell the company to Raaz, the company he's working with from the beginning.

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