Paul Raven

A thread for shows that were piloted / developed / announced under a different title that was used when they actually aired. To begin Dynasty - Oil Falcon Crest - The Vintage Years Lost in Space - Space Family Robinson The Man From Uncle - Solo Mad About You - Loved By You Please add to the list and comment if there is an original title you preferred.

As of the April 10 1978 ep Mel & Ethel Brez are no longer in the credits. They always got a 'story by' credit which previous headwriters did not. So at the moment the daily writers are credited. Linda Grover is the next headwriter so it will be interesting to see how she is credited.

Well they recast Liza and Nina (twice) and Angie and they were all not well received.

Julie Bovasso, known for her walk out minutes before airtime on FTR apparently remained as feisty in later years... The preview performance of Julie Bovasso’s Angelo's Wedding on 11 May 1985 imploded after an altercation between the playwright and the staff of Marshall Mason's Off-Broadway Circle Repertory. Bovasso, then almost fifty-five years old, attended the performance against the explicit wishes of the production team; the rehearsal period had been fraught. Suspecting unauthorized cuts, Bovasso took a seat in the audience, but then, midshow, confronted the backstage crew and demanded the chance to give the actors notes. The staff refused. At the start of the third act, Bovasso changed tactics: she alighted the stage and instructed the audience to leave the theatre. Members of the crew blocked her access to the actors, leading to a physical altercation, a 911 call, and, eventually, her forced eviction from the theatre.

Just discovered that Mel and Ethel Brez wrote the NBC pilot "Roxy' that starred Janice Lynde .Janice was hoping this would take her off Y&R but unfortunately was not picked up. Also, Kathleen Turner commented in an interview about her scene by Virginia's bed side as her mother was dying. Kathleen drew on her emotions of when her father passed and went all out in the scene, feeling pleased with her acting until she saw it onscreen and thought it came across badly. She said she learnt not to draw on her own emotions for a character.

Captain Video 1954 Jan 4 The invisible Saboteur by Carey Wilbur Cast Earl Hammond John Seven Judson Pratt John Connell Ray Boyle Feb 1 The Plunder of Orca by Sam Fuller cast John Dennis Lawrence Fletcher Feb 22 ? by carey wilbur Cast LeRoi Operti Fred Stewart Heywood Hale Broun Arny Freeman Ian Martin Stewart Bradley March 15 Cast Don McHenry Walter Klavun Peter McHugh Don Hamner Ed Holmes Joe Helgeson Alan North Arch Johnson Ernest Saracino Harold Stone Curt Conway Henry Michel April 12 ? by don agger Cast Mona Bruns Bob Hastings Grant Sullivan John Shay Robert Downing May 24 Pit of Doom by Carey Wilbur Cast Jay Barney Clifton James Somer Alberg Chester Stratton Ed Holmes Al sanders June 7 Odyssey into Peril by Carey Wilbur Cast Nat Polen Ed Holmes Kenneth Nelson John O'Hare Joyce Warren Ed Peck July 5 ? by carey wilbur Cast Ed Holmes Ed Peck Lawrence Fletcher Alan Rich Court Benson Basil Howes August 16 Cast Nehemiah Persoff Frank Overton Gene Leonard The Three cadets by Carey Wibur Cast Joey Walsh Malcolm Beggs Arthur Storch Vinton Hayworth Jnr Donald McKee George Cotton Oct 4 The Invisible Planet by Don Agger Cast Dick Moore Stefan Schnabel Melville Ruick Laura Weber Nov 15 The Star Smugglers by carey Wilbur Cast Bruce Hall Stewart Bradley Robert Drew Will Scholz Ray Boyle Dec 6 Tobor's Return by Carey Wilbur Cast Kenneth Nelson Earl Hammond Jack Klugman Dave Ballard Frank Lyons Stephen Elliot

Re Valiant Lady Add Don Dubbins - possibly Roy Withers, as he joined at the same time as Joan Lorring (Bonnie Withers)

re Three Steps to Heaven Mercer McLeod - Max Bremner Harry Holcombe - Dr Campbell Diana Douglas took over as Poco Feb 1954 Kay Medford, Sam Gillman, Donald Symington, Jane Seymour and Henry Lascoe added April 54

Helen Shields, who had previously played Dot Clayton, took over the role of Maggie Marlowe April 7 1955.

Re Teri Keane Add Stella Dallas 1950

So Tara was originally named Terry and Amy was originally Carol. The name changes seem to be last minute. I wonder why Agnes had a change of heart with those two names?

re Patricia Wheel Add Aunt Jenny 1949 Romance of Helen Trent 1950

Re Kay Campbell Add Miss Luther - True Confessions Story #1'From this Day Forward' 1957 Re Mary Patton Add Front Page Farrell 1949

The Reardons were Marland's prototype of the Snyders and he had long term plans for them but subsequent writers were more interested in bringing them on only to use them up and write them off.

AW (Bay City) was connected to Springfield (GL) as Michael Bauer existed in both towns. Also to Somerset b/c of characters existing in both towns and Pt Clair (L&F/FRFP) for the same reasons Bay City had links to Oakdale thru Mitchell Dru existing in both and later Donna/Cass/Vicky/Jake etc visiting/living there. Also b/c Mitchell Dru was on Brighter Day 3 Rivers(?) was part of that universe. I recall mention of the signpost that showing Oakdale and or Springfield being connected to Monticello (EON) and as Danfling stated Somerset (and by extension Bay City) were referenced on EON. That leaves Henderson (SFT) out of the picture. Oakdale was connected to Genoa City (Y&R) as Allison Stewart was connected to both. Rosehill (LOL) and Nortchross (WTHI) were connected. All of the ABC shows existed in the same universe and real settings NY (RH) and SF (LIAMST) connect all soap towns.

Keeping Greg and Liz around would have created stronger ties to the past. Greg could have been the go to lawyer ala John Silva, confidante to Jill, romantic interest for Nina etc He was married to Nikki and that could have been useful.Maybe she turns to Greg during one of her estrangements from Victor. There was no real reason for the Brooks to stay in town. Stuart could have decided to move also to be nearer any of his daughters, But with Jill still around the Fosters were still a part of GC.

If only Mary stuart had gone straight to GL following SFT's demise. It would be natural for Meta to return at that time following Bert's passing and Mary would have been in better health. Maybe Meta returns with a long lost Bauer (Trudy's son?) rather than the ill advised Jack & Lainie

Virginia Dancy and Tom Carroll. Looks like even then older female characters were dispensable. The writers decided that Barney had more longevity. Killing off Tom was an easy way to wrap up the abuse storyline, which seemed to be a Marland idea that was carried over but not really invested in. They probably should have bumped off Doreen at the same time as she was quite a pointless character at this stage.

Kim/Bob/Nick could have worked with Kim and Bob the end game. The show moved too far from its roots in trying to update, with way too many new and ultimately pointless characters.

Today we saw the fire at Andre's and the aftermath. I think they did a pretty good job depicting the fire and the follow up at the hospital. It's amazing the difference a few extras can make. Two characters were killed off. Melba Moore guest starred and got special billing.

I think the recasts definitely played a part in Bell's decision. Also he was facing the challenge of coming up with viable stories for those characters. Snapper and Chris were his golden couple - they had stayed together for 6 years by 1980 and then you had Hasselhoff taking time off and Lynne topping as a fairly bland recast. He had struck gold again with Lance/Leslie/Lorie/Lucas and Vanessa but after several years that story was getting played out and John McCook left. Jill was still prominent and then Brenda left. All of this and the move to 60min meant some big changes had to be made. I think the original plan was to mingle the Brooks and Fosters in but as time went by he was more enthused by the newer characters.

Petronia Paley...elegance, class and beauty personified.

It was difficult fitting Lucy into the show and her storylines were always pretty much islanded. Maybe had Mitch been a businessman and could have some connection to JR/Cliff? Lucy could have been more connected. Or Pam got her a job at The Store? Charlene, by her appearance and characterization of Lucy never seemed to mature. The idea of Lucy at Ewing Oil for example doesn't work for me.

Mary Stuart spoke well of her in her book,but this was during the 70's when Bunim was working her way up. Maybe once she was in a position of power she forgot some of the niceties...a common story.

Not if Victoria is Kevin Bancrofts's daughter,,,,