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I've been loving it too! So random! But so fast-moving. First of all, Brown Wind is doing the MOST. Last week's makeout sesh! And what was that outfit she was wearing to OC Fashion Week? (And by 'Week' I mean 'Two Hours on a Wednesday'). Way to overshadow your daughter's fashion show of black leotards! (Which may have actually been designed and paid for by somebody else, but I digress). And looks like Dr Deb is firmly on the thirsty train as well. Picking a fight with a security guard, then getting Brown Wind to pick a fight with one of the organisers. That Kathy woman was something else! I can only describe her as the Kim D of the OC -- if Kim D was a creepy psychopath. When she used her mic to ratchet up the fight a notch and diss the HWs in front of a (literally) captive audience? It was kind of amazing. I wonder if her crazy ass will be invited to reunion. I also really loved Kelly this episode who was hilarious and a voice of reason throughout. When she clocked Gina's new peroxide hair and said what we are all thinking (VERY UGLY), I practically clapped. Shannon annoyed me so much though. I was totally Team Eldest Daughter who wanted to slap her. Major foreshadowing with Matt stalking Gina.

Dallas is a slow burn, and it feels more like a mini-series than a series? I don't know how to explain it. There is a certain slightness to it that maybe some of the other franchises don't have. Maybe because it has a very small, tight cast, and Leeanne is such a dominant figure that sometimes it's hard to see anyone but her. With S3, it wasnt until the episode where Mama Dee invited everyone to her ranch house that I got into the season. This new trailer.... is not a great look for Leeanne. She has been angry and irritable all season long. I think it is because she feels D'Andra and Kary are out to bring her down and that she can trust nobody in the cast. But doubling down on the 'Mexican' comment -- yikes.

Upside: Wendy seems v smart and connected in DC. Has a real job. Not Charrisse. Downside: Too normal and grounded to get messy ? Should have been Katie. I wonder why she agreed to do this. She seems to have commentated on a lot of political news shows. Surely that kind of work is in-demand right now.

I'd much rather see Katie back then Charrisse tbh. Candiace better watch out, otherwise she is going to find herself divorced and without a RH paycheck. Nobody wants to be near the rage monster. I wouldn't skip it. It wasn't a boring episode, but it was an unexpected one. Braunwyn and Tamra were especially thirsty for camera-time. Re: Dallas, I think D'Andra will never apologise fully to Leeanne. You can see the look in her eyes when Leeanne is mentioned: she literally cannot stand her. The jealousy and resentment is REAL. I thought there was a chance in Mexico when they turned to each other and kind of helped each other drunkenly up the crazy stairs of Kary's house. But that moment has passed. Leeanne does not want that "fat cow," as she called her, in any of the all-cast wedding events, which means she wants her off the show. All the other cast members kind of put up with the fact that Leeanne is calling the shots to varying degrees, but they resent it, too. The irony IMO is that D'Andra's standalone story is probably the most interesting to me. The business stuff tied up with family. That convo she had with Travis a few weeks back was fascinating! BTW D'Andra is such a study in emotional abuse and how inherited money stunts you as a person. She reminds me a bit of Sad Boy Kendall on Succession, lol. I am off the Mama Dee train, I think. Wildly entertaining as she is, she is cruel and abusive to her daughter. Giving her daughter a bankrupt company so that her daughter will never gain confidence in herself in business is cruel. It was done to ensure D'Andra stays dependent on her mom. Plus I wonder if Mama Dee has already spent the money in D'Andra's trust, too. In some ways, D'Andra resents Leeanne because she reminds her of her mother. Leeanne has a domineering personality and can be emotionally manipulative. IA that apart from this story, something seems to have stalled on RHOD.

She can be, but she is also increasingly out-of-control. When Ashley was winding her up, Chris had to take Candiace aside to calm her down. It barely worked. The other women know this, they know they can rile her up, so I fully expect Ash/Giz/Rob to continue doing that for sh*ts and giggles. Giz HATES Monique so added incentive. I just wish Candiace wouldn't let herself get used this way. I think she needs (a) to cut her mother out of her life and (b ) anger management. Because when she uses words instead of fists, she holds her own (see reunion). I don't know how this fight started, but I don't blame Monique for losing it after a drink to the face. There is only so much a person can take. You know, I could see Karen not siding with Candiace, but not cutting ties either. She might take her under her wing to try and give her advice and calm her down. Karen seems to show Candiace maternal care that she is currently lacking from her own mom.

Wow. Obviously I want to watch this ASAP, but I would take January! They can shelve BH alongside Tardy for the Party. I can just imagine Gizelle, Ashley and Robyn smirking at all this. A fight between Monique and Candiace plays right into their hands, and they have long tried to provoke Candiace into losing her [!@#$%^&*]. Candiace clearly has anger issues (probably incredible frustration with her mother which she is deflecting elsewhere). And Monique is going to react to a glass of wine in the face. One of the nicest parts of the reunion was both Mo and Candiace saying they regretted the most their friendship going south, and I had hoped this meant they would make up. Guess not!

I can't see the posted images! Is it bad? You said catastrophic. Now I'm worried! 🤔

@Chris B Thanks! Not long now, but I wish ATL was starting this weekend! Re: BH. I have this mental image of production cracking the whip and screaming "You better be a bitch, ho!" I'm not sure what that says about the show (or me as a viewer) when it can no longer be entertaining unless everyone is vile to each other. The mantra for the last 5 years has been that LVP was the root of all evil over at RHOBH. Now that she's gone, the other women are trying not to ruin the narrative and expose themselves as being as treacherous as they claim she was. Unfortunately, unlike, say, RHONY, they have nothing else to offer but backstabbing.

RHOD: I don't know what it is this week with RH episodes. Am I hallucinating or have they gotten more random? Dallas had a solid episode going for 20 mins, and then they decided to go to a haunted house? What a pointless contrivance. It reminded me of Kyle inviting her charlatan 'medium' over (we all know the only real medium is Alison Dubois!) to tell us that Marilyn Monroe is sitting next to Lisa Rinna. I tend to feel for D'Andra more than i do Leeanne, but this last episode, i was Team Leeanne all the way. Kary is doing way too much. Leeanne can invite whomever she likes to her damn wedding. Kary is obvs doing D'Andra's bidding (BH styles -- not a great precedent to set) because D'Andra has been sidelined to the periphery this season and risks being removed from the show altogether. I don't know whose side to take in the Kameron vs Stephanie fallout. I see both POVs, but kind of feel Kameron is being petty about it. P.S.: Do we know when NJ and Atlanta start again?

Lol, it felt like one of those Buffy or True Blood episodes where everybody drinks a magic potion and starts acting completely different/shagging someone they shouldn't. On the upside: fights were resolved. This was the nicest Shannon has ever been. Everyone was hanging out. I didn't even mind seeing Megan, and god knows I never could stand her self-righteous ass. That Gina-Emily tiff was way too stupid and childish. The image of them making up while Tamra and Braunwyn tongued each other in a desperate bid for relevancy is burned on my brain. ITA with Vicki about Brown Wind -- she was acting way too thirsty and OTT. Tamra too of course, because she badly needs a deflection.

OC -- lord, what did I just watch?!

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Don't forget 15 hours of footage of the women getting glam squaded to look like clowns at a circus, followed by 20 memes of Dorit with a million hair clips in her hair. Serving us 'lewks'. Taylor would be outing those law suits with a quickness while also trying to scam free lip fillers from Dr Nassif!

I think we can, though. Much of the Middle East is deeply invested in keeping ISIS away. The Kurds, definitely. The Shiites, too. Even the Russians dont want ISIS on their doorstep. It was utterly possible to manage the ISIS situation in the Middle East. Their local support had fallen away as news of their viciousness and war crimes spread (unlike the Viet Cong in South Vietnam who were ultimately seen as unifiers of that war-torn country). This resurgence is entirely down to one person's tweet. With devastating consequences.A part of me wishes that the US military would have refused to follow orders in this instance (even though that sets a terrible precedent and I know they cannot defy the Commander in Chief) because what has happened is such a dangerous, foolish, corrupt decision. It is pure folly.

The likelihood is the latter, since BH HWs have the media on speed-dial, as we know from last season. So how many dud seasons will that be now? 4 in a row? If that is the case, well, imo the chemistry of this cast has bombed since seasons 6-7. I'm excited for Garcelle, but girl can't do everything by herself. The real problem is that the cast won't show anything genuine; every "drama' and reaction shot is scripted down to the tiniest tear rolling down one pumped-up cheek. I know these shows are scripted to an extent, but BH self-produce to a ridiculous, Trumpian degree, to deflect and for damage-control. Dorit, Teddi and Erika give us nothing that is in any way authentic and should be fired immediately. I keep forgetting Denise is actually on this show so she should go, too. I said a few days ago that Faye Resnick, Kathy Hilton and Taylor have the gift of the shady put-down (in the case of the first two) and the steely thirstiness (TayShanna) to put the cat amongst the pigeons. And the BH audience is familiar with them. Brandi also cannot stand Vyle or Rinna, so bring her on for a pop. Hey, desperate times call for desperate measures! I would love to see Rinna and Kyle get a little karma their way.

1,000% agree. The convo with the Ukrainian president? I expect no less of the orange asswipe. But what he has done to the Kurds -- without a backward glance, out of sight, out of mind -- is truly evil, truly treasonous, the true crime here. Innocent people are now dead, and much worse is to come in the next few days. It is ethnic cleansing in all but name. Moreover, the rumour is Trump is doing this because he renovated a Trump Tower in Istanbul and wants to protect his business interest. If true, our allies were thrown to the wolves to protect a shitty, gaudy piece of concrete in Turkey. It is so gross, it makes me want to throw up.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/oct/10/power-silicon-valley-climate-crisis-big-tech-profitable This opinion piece I have linked to makes the point that Silicon Valley have become so big, rich and powerful that their only priority is consolidating their position, squeezing more $$$ out of us and protecting their massive wealth. Speaking of Big Tech, I saw that Google removed an app in Hong Kong which helped protesters track and share the movements of police forces coming at them. This was at the 'request' of the Chinese government. Given that China is using hardcore face-recognition and other technology to control people and strip them of their rights, it makes no sense to deprive unarmed protesters in HK of the one app that was helping them assemble while the authorities are allowed to use all the tech weaponry against them. Google totally folded in the face of China, because money. And I don't know if this has already been discussed upthread, but the way DT has thrown our allies the Kurds to their almost certain annihilation is so completely, mendaciously, selfishly, stupidly evil. He is so enamoured of these tyrants like Erdogan; everybody else -- our friends -- are totally expendable. This move is so dangerous. It risks resuscitating ISIS from the grave and opening up another ISIS front in the Middle East and into Europe. It also shows that nobody can ever trust the US's word ever again. I know this is happening in a country far away and all that, but I am shaking with anger about it. I cannot imagine what the Kurds (who fought on the frontline against ISIS, with a military made up 40% of women to boot) are going through at this moment. And for that [!@#$%^&*] to justify it by saying well, the Kurds weren't with us on the beaches of Normandy in WW2..... my disgust has reached new depths. /rant

Finally watched final episode of Potomac reunion. Thrilling fron start to finish! Especially the forensic questioning of Michael, and his attempt to gaslight everybody and claim they could not have possibly seen what they saw because drunk/where they were standing. I love how everyone stayed their ground, even after he tried to intimidate White Chris, and Gizelle, standing over her as he was being de-miced. That exchange between him and Ashley about Ashley going to 'talk' to Tobyn but she was mic'ed so she didn't want production to pick up her words was eye-opening, and had a definite threatening feel. Up until then, I was actually feeling for Ashley and her situation, but after seeing that, I knew Ash was in total cahoots with Michaek, and as nasty, blackmailing and gaslighting as he is. A truly great season. I have such a fondness for all these women, I hope the cast comes back unchanged next year (and Katie!). You can't find chemistry like that. And Karen is a goddam QUEEN. She talked so much sense and with such humor. Karen is my favourite HW of all the Real Housewives franchises. Dallas: Finally caught up. The Mexico episodes were really good, and it's unusual for a RH show to get right into the drama so early in the season. Leeanne is having a bad edit so far this season. As a qualified fan of Leeanne who can only take her in small doses, I am ok with Leeanne being called out. It's healthy for her as the star of this franchise. IMO the standouts (and my faves) have been Kameron and Stephanie. God, I love Kam slurping that spaghetti while everyone was fighting around her. I am sad S and K are on the outs, but I really enjoy watching them. I am also, shockingly, not annoyed by Brandi?! I can't believe I just wrote that because I usually hate her ass. Standout scene of yesterday's episode was Travis advising D'Andra about her company. Some people might find that business talk boring, but I find it fascinating. It felt 100% genuine as well, and not at all scripted. I understand D'Andra regarding firing people -- I would be sick and destroyed about it. Travis is fast-becoming one of the best husbands on the RH with his common sense and supportiveness towards Stephanie.

I've been away so am only now catching up on OC (Dallas and last episode of Potomac to follow -- honestly, I cannot wait for RHOP!). Seems like all three franchises have been firing on all cylinders. After some crappy seasons, OC finally seems to be settling into a comfortable groove. What has been great about this season is anticipating The Fall of Tamra. I appreciate what she offers to the show (without her pot-stirring, OC would be a snooze). But without Vicki to take all the blame full-time, the spotlight is now firmly on her machinations. I love how Kelly can read her like a book. I'm not a big fan of Kelly's roid-rage aggression, but I am on her side when it comes to Shannon & Tamra. Also, I was glad she and Vicki made up in a heartfelt way. I was sick of hearing Kelly blame everything on Cokegate. Shannon & Tamra are so toxic together. The way they were mean-girling Emily as she sat on the floor was horrible to watch. PLEASE let them be called out this year. Shannon's attitude is so stank regarding Emily. Team Emily, especially when it comes to the way Gina has dropped her good friend in favor of the Dos Bitcheras. Gina's priorities are all wrong. I know she is being gaslit by her awful ex, but Gina is really making rotten judgement calls when it comes to her friends and her own life. Alexis. Blink and you'll miss it. Braunwyn wants a threesome with TamBoobs? Nobody wants to see that, Bravo. --------- Also, while I was away, I watched NJ season 6 for the first time ever. I have to agree with whoever defended it on this thread -- after the first episode, it is actually not that bad. I can understand why they dumped Amber and the twins -- way too thirsty and contrived. I personally cannot stand Amber who was doing way too much. I could have handled the twin married to Rinno another season, I guess. Dina was a delight, and it is clear her friendship with Teresa is the real deal. Melissa was a non-entity. Also watching S3 RHOBH. My god, after the shittiness of the most recent 4 seasons of BH, it is a shock to watch this fast-moving season. Adrienne exposed was brilliant. Seeing Kyle scramble as she realized Adrienne was on her way out and LVP was where it's at, was fabulous. Yolanda was actually a good watch, although the manipulation of Brandi and positioning re: LVP, her Lyme disease and her husband, are plain to see, in hindsight. I even liked Marissa. Taylor was fired too soon IMO -- she was thirsty enough to start drama with anybody. But it was around this time that Bravo started prioritising aspirational living on BH (like Yolanda's fridge), as opposed to the Wealthy vs Wannabes, which was such a classic, tense dynamic. Plus, we saw drunken Dana/Pam go off on the women ("These women love themselves so much, I don't think there is enough leftover to love you") -- one of the best scenes of BH ever. The real standout was Faye Resnick. I don't know why I enjoyed her because she is such a Kyle mouthpiece but she gave as good as she got. If Brandi ever came back to the show (and being that she hasn't been asked, it kind of destroys her argument that LVP was the one keeping her off the show. More like Kyle!), Faye is really the only one who could stand up to her and fight dirty. I also wish Kathy Hilton would join the show. She clearly cannot stomach Kyle in any way, and probably isn't a fan of Rinna either.

Alexis is back?? You know what, I am not upset about that. I could see her I this current group. This news will irk Tamra and Shannon so bad, and I am here for it. Also, Gretchen must be devastated that Jesus Jugs gets asked back, but not her. As for Sarah Paulson, well, now we know why Andy adores her! I can't hate on her love for RHONY, though.

Trailer needs more Kenya, because she brings the Drama! It's clear from leaked reports that her story is dominating the season. I was surprised to see Cynthia have such a central role, too. Lord knows what Eva is doing there. Guess Bravo set her up as Narrator because there wasn't much else.

The Umansky girls look like their paternal grandmother. I am probably alone in this, but I think she is too young to have messed with her looks. The nose is radically different (like Zolciak different) and I wish they'd gone subtle like Kyle and Kim Richards did. But hey, it's their bodies! Those babies are adorable. You can definitely tell which is Porsha's, lolol!

It looked like Beth, but since the previous scene had Cassie in a prison tower, I started second-guessing myself like 'Wait, was that Cassie?' I am really procrastinating today if SC is is what I'm musing about!

This YT vid may have the answer! Prepare to relive the brightly-lit vortex of suck. @3.56. I still cannot tell who it is:

I've believed Karen to be the breakout star of RHOP since the early days, but that view has solidified after this season. Karen is smart, self-deprecating, thinks on her feet, has a great turn of phrase, and can defend herself without breaking a sweat. I think her secret weapon is actually her empathy for others. She understands Gizelle and Ashley as human beings. Oh, and she's also funny as hell.