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For me, all the magic for the NB left the year PC tied it in with the General Homicide murders. But, leave it to Lynn Marie Latham to take something that was supposed to bring awareness to AIDS and turn it into a backdrop for a grisly, confusing serial killer tale.

Why do you insist on that (our going off as fans and creating our own shows) as being the solution to all the troubles that plague these shows? Sure, we could go create our own stuff if we had to, or wanted to, but why should we? Why can't we just hold to the proverbial fire the feet of those who are being paid to write and produce the shows still on the air? Is it really so bad just to ask those jackholes to do better, to try harder, to not bore the audience or insult their intelligence or tastes on a regular basis?

I tend to think it's the former. People joke all the time about "participation trophies," but they're real, and who do you think "earned" them? It certainly wasn't the Gen-X'ers! We were conditioned to live in a society that didn't give a [!@#$%^&*] about us, lol!

Believe me, I hear ya, lol. IDK whether *I* can truly refrain from mocking or tearing apart this show and Ron Carlivati's godawful writing. I know I should just...move on, but I also know it's never easy. She behaved nothing like any human being anyone has ever known - but you're right, that's a whole other thing. Ugh. As much as I would LOVE to see GL/Liz again, I DREAD what "magic" someone like Ron Carlivati would have in store for her, lol.

DAYS is obviously so fond of bringing back people on an off-contract/recurring basis, they could have done the same for Joe Gallison (unless, of course, JG is not at an age where he'd be up for returning even occasionally).

Good point!

At the risk of overgeneralizing, I think most millennials and Gen-Z'ers have this tendency to be not even remotely interested in anything that occurred before their time. In their minds, the world is [!@#$%^&*], and it's all our faults, so anything the rest of us have to say about anything is not worth paying attention to. At all.

When you're right, @Vee, you're right. I said what I said to Ron Carlivati on Twitter, because I felt his attitude toward his critics was not constructive. I mean, if he feels what he's written is good, then whatever. Just don't act like an ass when others disagree. But again, @Vee, you're right. Calling him out on his (mis-)behavior on social media solves nothing and changes nothing. At the end of the day, he's still the one writing that [!@#$%^&*], and we're still the ones who ain't writing at all. Ob-la-de, ob-la-da, life goes on.

Man, those were some dark, dark hours. I remember watching some of that and thinking, "Would they have tried this if Erin Torpey were still playing Jessica?".

I'm done picking on DAYS' crap storylines. They are what they are.

I remember when I was still a teenager in the '90's and I would hear all the what-about-the-children jive coming from certain quarters. Even THEN, I knew what these so-called concerned folks were REALLY saying. Again, ladies and gentlemen, let's hear it for us Gen-X'ers, the only generation who knows horse manure when they hear it!

Exactly. "Missy" treasured working with the crews on all her projects, but not enough to put up with shitty writing. It's one of those kinds of stories that I'm sure happens IRL, but just doesn't come off well on most movies and TV shows.

IKR? I mean, the devil even went into Doug, and that was something we ALL could have done without.

It really broke my heart to see how certain fan bases held GL hostage in the late '90's and throughout the 2000's. In times past, you could have counted on GL being one show (with Y&R being another) that wouldn't cave to pressure like that.

Did Phyllis, Linda and Melissa have much to do during that time? Was Pat Falken Smith still head-writing at that point? If so, I wonder if she had it in mind to use Mary's strangling as a catalyst for bringing back the Andersons.

In that case, though, I'd say the network interference was justified.

Same.

I feel sorry for his writers. Well, most of them, anyway. Jamey Giddens is just as awful as he is.

Because, on top of everything else that's wrong about him, he's also a Class-A chickenshit. He can't stand the heat, so he just burns down the kitchen.

I'm not afraid of that hack. I've got more wit, more talent, more sense and better taste in my pinkie finger than he does in his whole, damn body. He wants to come at me for criticizing his shitty stories? Let him.

LMAO! T.R.'s transformation into pure evil exemplifies what's wrong with today's soaps: TPTB don't take the time anymore to play all the necessary beats, because they're afraid of losing the audience. It's stupid.

It won't be someone. It'll be Gabi. That way, Ron Carlivati can rehash her feud with Julie.

They probably wouldn't, given the circumstances surrounding BB's death. Then again, this is the show that saw nothing wrong with using the late Macdonald Carey's disembodied face to scare the bejeezus out of Marlena.

Exactly. I respect your opinion(s) on this subject, but I just can't see it the same way you do. Sorry.

Mike Bauer dying at the hands of the Santos clan? I don't think so.