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They've already set up Lucas to be made a fool of for challenging Sonny and Jason re: Marco earlier this year, because Marco is now an active accomplice to his father's crimes (he knows Sidwell killed the judge, etc) while Lucas is waxing rhapsodic about their great relationship. Whether that means doom for Marco down the road is hard to say. They always undermine legit threats to Sonny like this, in a way Ron Carlivati used to do with a number of characters. Say what we will about the Mulcahey story, but it was still Sonny's own actions and past despite the meds! I do hope Lucas and Marco survive, because AA is great. If they actually put Brad and Lucas together, oof.

It's a matter of time if not days or weeks. This team has a specific thing for the 'fan favorite' duo of Britt and Brad, who I've never liked.

Agreed.

I haven't seen anyone worse anywhere in a long time, his only competition is Dead Oscar on GH. AA is a rare bird. He should've been fired before Day 1.

Deidre Hall is appearing on one of the Trek shows.

Deidre Hall is appearing on one of the new Star Trek shows on Paramount+. No, we don't know which one (Strange New Worlds, Starfleet Academy, etc). She'll be playing a psychiatrist - in space!

Not really, no.

It's not the writing. Alegria is the worst actor on daytime.

I don't agree with everything ranger says on the daily about BTG (in fact I often disagree) and we have clashed before on other topics. But I don't have a problem with genuine critique vs. someone who's just here laughing at the peons for enjoying the show, or someone angry their fanfic isn't onscreen. Therefore I don't have a problem with anything ranger has said. I feel like we have to have outgrown having this same meta discussion by now though. It's been almost a year. Every few weeks there's a claim that this thread is a hugbox of positivity brooking no criticism. But there is criticism, both positive and negative, every !@#$%^&*]in' day lol. Seven days a week! Let's retire this miniature debate at least. People are gonna talk about the show however they like in here. All I care about is if they engage with what they're actually watching vs. their own baggage.

I think they definitely are. There's not a bad one in the bunch for me, including Ted. I think we would've seen his beliefs soften or moderate per his exposure to Cathy, but he'd likely still have those failings. I do think any of those jobs could've worked, especially a TV guy like Ben or maybe the LAPD. The Ruth arc was great, except as I noted many pages back it ends on a fizzle as soon as Ava Gardner's appearances run out. She vanishes between episodes after (despite all her grand talk) simply setting up a very hasty, corny and weak 'spouse walks in on another other woman' bit entirely offscreen. The next week she's gone with no farewell or climax/conclusion to the story. (Unless the scenes were cut for DVD/syndication, which I doubt)

Dante Green is not driving any current story. He is backstory from the past for the Articulettes. Alan is a dead man who has never driven any onscreen story. Yolanda is Izaiah's ex who he has parted ways with upon arriving in town. That's a common plot device on soaps. Despite offscreen Yolanda sending a text message, these offscreen characters are not driving any major onscreen story in the present day. If Yolanda is terrorizing Izaiah via SMS in a month, then we can talk. As for the Richardson kids, I don't think there is anything sex-negative or regressive about Martin and Smitty being protective and concerned about when their daughter loses her virginity. It also isn't a story about characters like Jason and teenaged Robin on GH deciding when and where and how to have sex in a safe way, Sam's behavior is distinctly different and so is the boy.

Which I think is quite deliberate on the story's part, and an old soap staple.

I should add my resuming Knots has been hampered by Dallas going on demand. I was watching Season 7 concurrently with the Dallas dream season, to map and compare their swap of creative teams. Dunne's team was doing interesting stuff over there, at least early on. I can still access it, but not having the HD masters sucks.

It reminds me a lot of the the '70s political thrillers, yes, most specifically what the legendary Alan J. Pakula called his "paranoia trilogy" - Klute, All the President's Men, The Parallax View. All great films. And I do think the EV/Galveston saga (as well as Wolfbridge) worked similarly in Season 6, even the whole tidal basin killer subplot which kind of fizzled out once the old man died. Empire Valley itself, with its surveillance empire, is very relevant to today even if it got cartoonish in Season 7. But I can't say I hate it thus far as I find it very modern to the moment. Whether KL should've been exploring it is debatable, but I do think it worked for them when they tried similar things in Seasons 5 and 6. I think @Khan is right about Joshua - if someone hadn't had it in for Baldwin, he and Lisa Hartman could've become a younger tentpole couple. They had real heat before Joshua went totally nuts.

I likely will when I resume watching, though it's gotten difficult with the show hopscotching across platforms. I still have access, but IRL events and work obligations, and other shows have taken up time. I left off a third into Season 7, just after Joshua's death. I just assume Easton was fanatical about his loyalties to Galveston, who had already demonstrated a clear interest in making Gary his successor; ergo, Easton wanted to secure wife Abby's cooperation and/or approval. I did not think the twins were a one-off for Ackerman. I got the impression he'd done this before, and that Easton might've been involved.

It is impressive you dug this post up lol. Not unappreciated. I remember this scene, and I remember Galveston making the discovery. But I thought Easton was working for Galveston for a long time. It seemed bizarre for him to want to fanatically insinuate himself into Abby Ewing's good graces so much as to involve himself in Ackerman's baby trafficking, unless Galveston already had his eye on Gary.

Tyrell has had a thing for Jessica since late spring.

What are the active roles they are playing in the storyline?

Yep. Nothing about seeding these people is unusual, Marland did it with plenty of Snyders he kept in reserve.

GM makes me care about a character I didn't feel needed to exist, because he's turned out to be very charismatic and talented (in addition to having a great body). Those scenes with Jane Elliot at the reveal were so powerful, but I was onboard before that. It just happens like that sometimes. I do think Frank has a very specific pecking order at the show and anything that isn't a part of that gets downshifted. It's just so frustrating, with both this couple and Alexa Havins (among other actors or couples).

Not really, no. Soaps have been mentioning relatives who have yet to appear since at least the Irna days.

It's already posted a page ago.

Still so apeshit they are being treated as a B-couple.

Hello again! It's because the soap mags have engaged Howarth about this topic several times over the decades in very candid interviews, and because it was for ages one of the few known media facts about him in the many years he explicitly never gave interviews after leaving OLTL for the first time in '95. This only began to change when he moved to ATWT in 2003 and played Paul Ryan, and only really took hold when he went to GH and only after he took on the role of Franco in 2013. It's part of the package where Howarth is concerned. This is not a confrontational, accusatory, verboten or uncouth topic, it's one that has followed Howarth through almost his entire daytime career. And it's a point of curiosity. He gave an outside media (non-soap) interview about it around a decade ago and was clearly still uncomfortable with having popularized a rapist. Any soap journalist left worth the salt would at least say 'your history with playing Todd Manning is well-documented. What made you comfortable taking on a role like this one again?' But there are no decent soap journalists left.

I think Megan is pretty vibrant from the jump, including in the '80s and earlier in '91. Watching her decline is very difficult as she's such a kinetic, witty character.