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John, I want Jen Landon on the show. That doesn't mean I think it makes sense for her career to do it. Maybe she wants to settle down with whatever family she has and have some security, fine. But you constantly go off on these crusading tangents about something the show does to defend it or push a performer you like that others don't, or some idea you get excited about on Twitter, you make up ideas like 'maybe she's out of money' and you don't actually listen to anyone. We don't have to agree with you to be fans of the show. Take a breath.

Nate's latest 'model' has been roundly mocked by serious pollsters and analysts. He is clearly doing Thiel's work, and has also become more and more of a GOP sympathizer particularly since COVID. He's turned into the high-end Trafalgar/Rasmussen.

If this was Joe it would be a 7 day story with 10 op-eds.

John, we are just saying it doesn't necessarily make career sense for an actress (and yes, BetterForgotten is right about the Landons) who has built a very respectable career in recent years moving beyond daytime. It doesn't make us 'bad soap fans' for acknowledging the obvious.

Yellowstone is probably getting a sixth season. And not much has changed about actors wanting to get out of soap operas. You know that.

Because they understand career trajectories, John. Landon was just a castmember on the biggest show on streaming and her CV has become impressive in recent years. It behooves her to continue competing in that sphere. For the same reason NAC is not coming back to GH next year unless he runs over Ryan Murphy's dog or something. She may just want to work or have other considerations and I would love to see her in the role, but it doesn't make sense for me.

Oy vey, not Brooke Langton. But I do like the other two. McNamara was so creepy in Copycat.

For both threads, just media confirming the above on their own:

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I am not calling him "Cates" and "John" like he was some serious upgraded character lol. He was just a random blond guy pretending to be Jagger who looked like he was on a break from Hallmark movies. Where he'll probably go next and make more money anyway. PM gave him some good speeches but I never saw anything long-term there. He was just a tool.

Unwittingly my ass.

The difference between now and then is (based on Mulcahey's own interviews) he just didn't have a ton of time for Sonny period, unlike Guza. I liked the story, even if there were a few rough edges in the plotting (Ava randomly mistaking Sonny's meds for sleeping pills). I think the plan was for her and Valentin to link up via their mutual interest and continue the scheme. I could've gone either way with keeping Ava or finally cutting her loose. I think she still has gas in the tank though, not unlike the Alex Olanov example I always cite from OLTL. I think Mulcahey wrote some pretty good scenes for Jason and Carly, particularly the one where he explains his tattoo to her. But he was working at a disadvantage, namely the fact that Steve and Laura have no sexual heat unlike him and Sarah. I think this was a dream of Korte that was never going to work, and I think they have no clue what to do with Jason now. I think they had banked on putting him and Carly over and realized quickly it wasn't happening. Hence Brennan the dayplayer becoming ascendant. No one said that.

No he won't.

It is a caricature, but the character isn't so it works for me.

Jonathan Martin continues to whine about Republican attacks on Harris not connecting and offers coaching tips:

It's stupid but no, it's not that serious.

The great moment here is at the end where Mike Barnicle, of all people, excoriates the media coverage for false equivalence and softening how Trump is reported. If it's on Morning Joe it has broken through.

Meanwhile, back on the Vance beat:

John McCain's son, repulsed by the Arlington incident, speaks out.

Sure, of course. I just didn't know it was ever backed off of in that period. I actually think much of S2's first and last halves are much stronger than some of mid-S3 where it flags for a little while, but that's me. I've talked about it before, but Abby is the perfect encapsulation of why the show's transformation worked so well IMO. Like all the other women and families, you knew exactly where Abby came from because you saw it onscreen the day she drove into the neighborhood. You knew what she'd been through and what she wanted, and she didn't get it all immediately in S2 or S3. So you could root for her and make the adjustment (as with the other characters) when they dive headfirst into the '80s and much of the ensemble become career power players. Because they built the changes in themselves from the ground up, Abby most of all. That didn't happen with any of the other examples you cited, and doesn't happen with most daytime or primetime soaps today.

There wasn't one. There never is with these Frank memberberries returns. It's trying to get Twitter points from people easily pleased by random past callbacks. PM tried to make the best of it as a catalyst for change. No, that's not why those decisions were made. They were made, in order, because he was very popular and because they have no investment in a young Black female lead without him.

Murphy always gets his hunks for a few shows. What I am hoping is that he still moves on before too long.