Vee

I just don't care. There is no need for that.

It's ridiculous, but so typical of a lot of vet stories under this and the Passanante/Altman regimes. They need to hire a real love interest for Rena (with a contract, Frank) and dig deep into her missing years off-canvas.

To be clear, virtually all of them except Douthat and one other said Harris won. But still:

If it stands (which I am not convinced it will) it's a win for Harris too. It would be almost impossible to crush him with the same impact twice - the media would hyper-grade on a curve to try to recreate some sort of comeback narrative.

It has to be something where she's just going to embrace her natural self, because oh my God it sounds terrible. Jason is never going to sleep with Ava Jerome, Sonny's sworn enemy. That being said I don't think Korte is ever going to put Jason and Carly over.

Axios angsts over Trump's debate catastrophe.

Full retreat:

Plus, bringing in Jamie and Jack was just a total fail. Absolute dullsville.

More context:

So many Twitter stans squawk when Ava is written as who Ava is. A lot of them seem to just want a somewhat more hard-edged Carly Snyder. Ava being Ava is suddenly 'character assassination.' I don't know whether PM was going to write her out; there are two schools of thought and two competing BTS stories out there. I do know keeping her dark and nasty is what I prefer, and if that means Maura goes off-contract and swans in and out from time to time and does stints to keep Ava in play so be it. But many past GH or other soap villains have proven that going off-contract is not necessarily required to continue. It's a question of how you keep them protected in story via power and influence. I always reference the Alex Olanov solution from OLTL (where Alex went from a wanted psychopath drowning women at Loon Lake to a protected mob wife, a Buchanan bride and then the mayor) but dammit, it worked.

And of course they're besties again now post-Mulcahey. But whatever.

I remember Joshua Harris best from Twin Peaks, lol. He was fun.

Ric and Ava are both slime, but fun, sexy slime. That's all I need.

That was so embarrassing for everyone involved, lol. I think Ric could've been a lead at one point but it was not then. Rick Hearst can be a lead, but Ric can't. I am not suggesting he should have an A-pairing - he is a sleazeball. I'm just noting the reality of what it is.

I know Deadline is claiming "Christmas in Pine Valley” is a title, but I'm honestly not convinced this is not some classic 'reporting on the soaps' lazy Googling since there apparently is already a Great American Family movie by that name from 2022. (The nerve!)

@DRW50

Oh boy. "Special arc" screams "3 weeks shot separately on a green screen".

I don't expect a Lifetime TV movie to be all things to all people. It has maybe 90-100 minutes runtime, it won't tie up a ton of loose ends and it will be self-contained; it won't do everything I want or anyone wants. But it can be a nice return. And my preference for AMC (or any ABC soap) would be for it to return to streaming in a regular weekly or seasonal format. But it can't be denied that cable TV movies like the Lifetime franchises do well and have a considerable lifeline. And it's pretty likely most AMC stars would make themselves available for something like that. So I can't see why anyone would want to tamp down expectations for either this or The Gates. The fact is that any new soap opera programming is bound to be compared to the other vastly inferior shows on air right now, whether they are direct timeslot competitors or not. If GH, DAYS, Y&R or B&B look bad next to The Gates or a series of Lifetime movies, that is those shows' problem. Maybe they should try not being consistently bad. Which, I think we're all agreed, would thrive In this environment same as GL. It's just very sad ATWT has lost some key veterans like Kathryn Hays or Liz Hubbard in recent years. "Pine Valley" had names attached and went nowhere. Which was probably for the best, judging what we heard about its tone and focus. I think it was going to end up a tryhard hackjob. You can say a lot about Lifetime but they're not trying to compete with Riverdale.

Compared to what, another stellar year of GH?