Juliajms

I think it's pretty clear I was speaking in terms of sexual ethics. I have no idea if he even used his phone for any of this and it's frankly the last thing I care about when our government is awash with predators.

^ People knew all that when he was elected. To me, that's the most disturbing part. Not enough people cared that he was a sexual predator and a racist. Those things go together quite often it seems. Anyway, that's why I fully expect Moore to be elected. It's sick and disturbing, but I don't know what we can do about it.

As far as I can see this guy did nothing wrong. Well, maybe he exercised bad judgement in letting a partner snap a pic. Still, he didn't rape, assault, grab or harass any woman, man or child, so he doesn't deserve to be lumped in with all these predators we're dealing with right now. My goodness. We have these predatory men in every branch of our government. The President has endorsed a pedophile for the Senate. We are facilitating the starvation of Yemen and turning a blind eye to the ethnic cleansing of the Rohingya. If I still believed in god I would expect judgement day to start any second now.

Yes. I will definitely volunteer to do that in 2018 and 2020. Even if Omaha is hopeless (hard to say due to annexations) I think it's good for people who want to vote to feel that they exercised their power. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/nov/21/germany-political-crisis-uncertainty-europe-macron?CMP=twt_gu Is Merkel going to survive this? I don't keep up with German politics.

I'm really concerned that we are in big trouble here. In some ways, it's almost impossible for me to imagine democratic backslide in such an open society, in 2017. Yet here we are with people ok with a pedophile taking office as long as their agenda moves forward. It's sick. As for Leeann's allegations, I'm not sure what to think now. She was convincing in that Trapper interview. What about the other woman who came forward. Is she credible?

And Hatians have lost their protected status https://www.npr.org/2017/11/20/565569368/u-s-cancels-program-for-recent-haitian-immigrants-they-must-leave-by-2019 This is such pointless cruelty.

Yes, I think he was overall a good president when it comes to policy. In retrospect he made mistakes on criminal justice and welfare reform. Still, the me that exists in 2017 would not vote for him in the primary. I'm past giving quarter to any man (or woman for that matter) that is sexually aggressive. Paula Jones is the one I am pretty sure is telling the truth (although sadly I believe them all) and I'm not ok with the person who is at the top of our government being a predator. Now we know that Clinton, Bush and Trump all were/are to varying degrees. Shameful! I'd say that the extreme hatred of the Clintons came from the rise of conservative talk radio and Fox. Plus, unlike the Obama's, the Clinton's always seemed surrounded by dealings that were just a little shady and they were smug about playing the technicalities. "I did not have sexual relations with that woman" Debating the meaning of the word "is". It gave the conservative talk shows just enough fodder. And let's not forget that Hillary did not fit into their little box of what a First Lady should be. Still, I've never seen anything like the hate for them it in my life time. The sheer obsession is so far out of proportion to anything reasonable. Even now when they will never be in power again they are a lightening rod.

He' been a bit off for quite awhile.

That just makes it more frustrating to me. I hate going down there knowing there isn't a chance in hell I'll be picked.

And can't come back in any case. No one can save us from this administration. I don't even believe Mueller can, although I would love to be proven wrong. I do think he'll find wrong doing, but by the time he gets Trump out the damage will be done. Maybe it already is done when it comes to things like loosening these white nationalists on society. It's going to take a lot to get that cat back into the bag.

Just awful.

I'm concerned about this too, although I'm afraid it will happen even if they don't take away the deduction. This will make it much worse though. What we should be doing is finding away to forgive part of this debt for service. Millennials and those coming after are under so much financial stress, it's insane to make it harder for them. This tax plan actual has a deduction for private planes while taking away deductions for teachers and adoptive parents. I'm so disgusted right now by our so called leaders.

I don't find her timing odd at all. Just like I don't find the timing of Roy Moore's victims suspect. They are coming out right now because there is strength in numbers and women are finally being believed. He didn't just take a picture of her, he forcibly kissed her. She was just on Jack Tapper and I found her credible. It was very sad when JT mentioned her children and she broke down.

^ Then why did he apologize without mentioning that? I believe his accuser. She's on Jack Tapper right now and she sounds credible, imo.

^ We all knew a spill would happen eventually, but it sure didn't take long at all.

^ I hear you on Anita Hill. I have never forgotten her. We have a creep in the White House and another on the Supreme Court. Next up a man who preyed on teenager in the Senate? It can't be allowed. Meanwhile, the House passed their horrible tax bill.

And this is why we are in big trouble as a nation. When the person leading you is filth it makes so much wrong doing permissible. His corruption has been permeating our society since he was elected. It's like the kids in a near by high school who were taunting Latino kids with "build the wall!!" How do you credibly punish them when our actual President leads these chants at his rallies?

I agree. All of these disgusting guys have got to go. Also I agree with DD that this tax plan is a nightmare.

^ Yikes. 15 and 19 doesn't sound that bad at first. Aren't stat rape laws designed to protect the 19 year old in these cases, since they might have met at school? Still, when you actually see the video, that is just plain gross.

Yes, but these are also the people who are high on their own entrenched power. I wasn't surprised how hard it was to file a sexual harassment complaint once I really thought about it. These lawmakers always cover their own asses and make sure they are protected. Enough is enough. It has to end.

I hope they are all publicly exposed and cast out. I don't care which party they are from these creeps have got to go.

Yes. As that article that Faulkner posted pointed out there are also plenty of situations that are not high profile enough to be covered. There are plenty of low level managers in all kinds of industries who have been harassing their employees. There just aren't journalists there to cover it.

What is her argument? I don't understand the two wrongs make a right thinking that is so common in political discourse. It's completely illogical.

I had that same thought for slightly different reasons. I don't know the psychology, but it seems like a lot of these guys who go for underage will go for male or female. Whatever the reason, I will definitely not surprised if there are some male victims.

That was obvious from the start. There is no way this guy only went after four teens. There is no doubt a long trail of victims. Meanwhile these women live in a place that is very hostile to them, even more so then the average victim, so it might take awhile for them to come forward. I imagine it's going to be a long couple of weeks for the GOP.