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Yes. They did. Very obnoxious to the viewer who just wants to watch the skating, but they don't really bother me. Tara and Johnny were very good in 2014, but they have gradually progressed into campiness and gossip and I am not sure what they sound like to regular fans or watchers, but they talked almost through entire programs. Tara is actually the one that never stops talking. I work in the figure skating field, so by the Olympics I had seen most of these programs a million times, so I could tune them out because I knew what elements were coming next. Anyway, rumor has it Johnny is very jealous of Adam and his attention he is getting. BTW, random fact, but most figure skaters I grew up with watched soaps. We had very odd school/skating schedules so I was often getting off school/getting ready to skate or vice versa when soaps were on at my house. Most of my skating friends watched Days and/or GH, while most my 'regular' friends were like what are you talking about? Marlena who?

This is neither here nor there on a soap board, but I used to be a competitive figure skater for years. Outside of Johnny's annoying personality, he actually has relevant things to say in regards to skating, while Scott Hamilton used to grunt and scream a lot and used the same phrases for every. single. skater, so Weir's actual commentary doesn't bother me that much. Scott Hamilton is just a more likeable personality, though. NBC got so much positive feedback from Johnny and Tara Lipinski's 2014 Sochi B feed commentary (the one that showed every single skater in every discipline on the old Universal Sports channel) that they fired Scott and have continued to use Johnny and Tara, although Scott was doing some commenting in Pyeongchang this year. I wouldn't be surprised if Adam starts commentating in the future, though.

Not that this is really related to soaps, but he did win the Olympic Bronze medal in the team event (and is the only 2 time world junior champion and a former national champion) and has done ratified (clean) quads in competition before- just not recently. The actual true hope Nathan Chen bombed, Adam skated relatively clean and gave some witty one liners. He's like a less obnoxious Johnny Weir.

1. Exactly. Sam was the worst character ever created. Even Kyle's brother in Season 7 is more interesting. If she was supposed to be the replacement for Jo, they misfired horribly. 2. I think others mentioned there were some back 'n forth contract negotiations with Marcia Cross? I always thought it was ironic how by the time she became an "official" castmember in season 4, she had already outrun her usefulness. 3. Yeah, I couldn't believe how Allison was able to hit the bottle and Jake barely flinched. I liked how Allison eventually went back to D&D, for all of two seconds. 4. Yup. haha 5. It was. Once again, Matt in his own storyline island, with no cute boyfriend (although his boyfriends were always mental hotheads) or the adorable Mara Wilson to make him interesting. Small sendoff for poor Jane. Gone are the days of someone getting a promotion or whatnot, and everyone from the apartment complex coming over for an impromptu party, complete with balloons and cake. Season One was adorable... I like how Soap Opera Digest once described David Charvet's MP run.... "from the moment David Charvet joined Melrose Place, he looked like he didn't want to be there." So true. Sam was dead weight. She was riding off her success from Swingers. She was less bad ass than Jo at her best when Jo was getting beat up by Jake's brother. Marcia Cross way outlived her usefulness. Why negotiate? Syd was a way bigger loss. They should have given more money to CTS or Grant Show, although I am okay with Jake's exit. Alison in season 5 is an utter disappointment. I don't understand why they just didn't have her and Billy ride off into the sunset. It's not like Billy did anything worthy after season 5. Amanda never really had a true rival (even though she always beat Alison) after season 5. I think their rivalry was special because of the love triangle and the points where they are friends. Poor Matt. I like him in second viewing. He deserved a better storyline alway David Charvet always seemed too young and out of place with the rest of the cast although I like Sydney and him together. So did Jenn, Billy's soulmate.

Okay just finished season 5. I had no idea it really was. I remember it being bad, but it's awful. The only mild entertainment is Taylor. I mean David Chavert is funny for different reasons. 1. wtf is this Billy/Sam/Dad thing. No one cares 2. Why did Kimberly go into re-mission only to die? 3. I totally forgot Alison was back on the sauce and Jake was just cool with it? They are one of the worst married couples ever. Truly Her and Amanda and her being back at D&D were a bright spot. I liked them as grudging friends. 4. This show is just a hot mess and it gets so much worse in the second half. 5. Did not recall NLG on the show at all. And that Matt/storyline was so weird. At least Billy and Alison got a small send off. I know they showed up at the airport with Jane, but it was like here's a banner and see you later. Lol

Post Season 4 Brandon and Kelly became self-righteous and annoying. I will always think the show jumped the shark once Shannon left even though Val was a good addition. And I agree Dylan was so out of place after high school like he had no direction. Just him and Kelly were boring. They needed a spoiler and Val was no Brenda in that area. Val's best pairing was David by far maybe because they were dating in real life. BAG sure knows how to score the hot ladies (TaT, VM, Megan Fox) and he grew up good looking. Anyway I stopped watching sometime after 6 and tuned in when Vanessa Marcil joined the show. I liked the character of Gina (but I like VM reading the phone book soo...bias), but the never fleshed her out enough to be a good Val replacement. Her and the charming Daniel Cogsgrove were bogged down with such transparent 'we are the designated losers' in this love quad it was just lame. Did anyone believe Kelly was going to marry Matt ever? I didn't even believed she liked him much. I thought VM and LP had okay chemistry, but Idk VM has chemistry with most people. I liked her and David better. What I find interesting is that she asked to be let out of her contract because she was so miserable and said it was a mean girls club and she was treated poorly. Although I'd be angry too if they made me Donna's sister. Like seriously VM is Hispanic and couldn't look less like Donna if she tried. They showed her mother and she was clearly not Hispanic so that made literally no sense at all. And then they kill Dr. Martin off? I didn't get the point? Overall though I think they wrapped the serious up well. Much better than Melrose's swan song.

The bay is the web series with Lilly Melgar, and Mary Beth Evans, and a bunch of soap stars right? They don't film very many episodes, do they? It keeps my Melrose movie dream alive, but glad to hear TC is working. I heard the Bay was good, but I have never seen in. I am not into web series even though I know a lot are better than actual soaps.

I'm not really good at math but it seems it was not even a couple of months since the last post... Well it was on the second page and most of the last few pages were about the reboot. Ha ha....I guess I am not good at math. He looks fine to me. I mean he hasn't aged horribly or anything.

I have never seen devious maids so I have no idea. Time flies. I realized I watched this in jr high and high school and now I am in my 30's lol I just think it would be kinda cool to do one of those old school this is where they are at now movies. Lord knows the crappy movies they put out on lifetime now. Although, not gonna lie loved them doing flowers in the attic and all the sequels. I can't imagine Michael Mancini 57, but I am sure he looks good. The rest of the cast does relatively. They all came together for the reunion show on GMA sans TC, so they seem like they'd be willing. I mean I know Lisa Rinna would be in lol She turns nothing down.

I mean I know what they have done, and DZ was awesome as Brookes mom on OTH btw. I am sure Marcia Cross and CTS don't need the money. I am just saying do any of them have long term commitments anywhere except Grant Show (I didn't know he was a regular)? They could totally do a movie ala Knots Landing like the 80's. There may be no market, but I don't see why Fox or the CW couldn't try or Lifetime with their unauthorized biographies lol. Then Grant could even do it. And yeah, not so sure about Heather and she's kinda of the deal breaker. Just a thought.

I get they tried to make it more grounded but Sam was lame and Alison was a complete jerk to Billy. Yeah, he did some bad things but I mean, c'mon, he put up with A Lot of crap from her. Her just kinda leading him on but not seriously considered him at all was just mean after all they been through. If CTS and Grant Show thought Jake and Alison was a good idea then I know their next career is not in writing. Watching the Unauthorized Melrose movie made it seem like there was no love lost between CTS and Andrew Shue after they broke up, so maybe that had something to do with it? Who knows it's one of the most annoying parts of MP IMO that they built Jake and Alison up only to just break them up and neither left with the correct partners. I am sure they could have worked something out with CTS for the finale with her on the same network. So I guess Alison is just drunk in the ATL? MP needs one of the eighties movies of the week that Knots Landing and I think Dallas did where we catch up with the og characters. I bet most would be game. Besides Laura Leighton are any of them working? Beside JW doing stints on GH as Frisco? I feel like I could talk about the ridiculous of the exits of Sydney and Kimberly for days. Kimberly should have been written off and brought back later. And I saw the replies about Doug Savant so I guess that is understandable. Killing him off is still irritating......... Michael was the real savior of the show. I like him so much more than I did when it aired. Of course Amanda is amazing too, but she got all victim and there were points you could tell she was over it. Michael sold everything. The more ridiculous the better.

I totally understand that, but they managed to keep a lot of 90210's around for years. I think they should have worked harder to keep Jake and Alison or at least let Alison and Billy go together. Jo, Jake, Alison, Jane, Kimberly, I missing anyone? Matt? That's a lot of people to loose and it seemed like they had no real game plan going into six and I realize Heather Locklear's pregnancy messed things up, but they should have tried harder to get some of the originals besides Jane back in the end. I mean it's like two different shows after season 4 and especially after season 5.

Bumping up this thread after a number of years. I have been watching seasons 1-half of 5 so far through Amazon Prime. I can't believe the decline of the show from 5-7. It's been mentioned a million times, but I don't understand why so many core characters departed in season five and the casting choices after. I am a huge CTS/Alison fan. One of the few as I can see reading this thread. She was the heart of the show. Alison and Billy should have ended up together. It's criminal they didn't send them off together or at least show him at her door at the serious finale. Jake and Alison have a spark, but then they became dull as dirt. I remember they had some chemistry in Season 1 when she was helping get his GED and the building was all aflutter with rumors about the two of them. None of Alison's other pairings really did anything for me except Hayley. I loved drunk Alison, bitchy D&D Alison and Alison/Amanda's rivalry. They should have done whatever to keep her or get her back for the finale. Although I understand now as an adult why people weren't crazy about her. I don't see where Brooke had to go after she became completely dependent on Billy. Her exit was perfect timing to me. Kimberly was a great character that outlived her usefulness. They kept her story going far too long after the explosion. I did always enjoy Marcia Cross. Sydney is fabulous and the only good thing about Jane. There was nothing interesting about Jane at all. Even evil Jane was stupid. Jo was good for a hot minute and her and Jake were good. The rest of the time her character was utterly useless. I like Matt in recent viewing. Never cared for him much before, but I liked some of his stories even with his silly love interests and drug addiction. Idk, I think he's a pretty good actor. Billy is Billy. Alison, Amanda, and Brooke made him interesting. Him being power hunger and evil is a joke. He worked best as the guy next door. I am not even going to get into his love interests post-season 4. Jake was a real loss as was shooters. To isolate him and Alison was bizarre and to build them up only to break them up in the end was a strange choice although I do enjoy the Billy/Alison scene at the airport. Michael is awesome as always. He had a lot of clunker storylines especially in the end but he always sold him. Peter was blah in repeats, but I remember liking him at the time and him and Amanda. Everyone else is not worth mentioning except Rena Sofer as Eve, but only because of my Lois love from GH. Taylor slamming herself into the door is the only memorable thing about the dying days of Melrose. I like Jamie Luner, but prefer her as Peyton in the too short lived Savanah.

She dated him for a long time in the 90's when he was actually relevant. I think they had a house together and everything. It didn't end amicably if I recall.

I find Brenda and Miguel much more objectionable than Alan/Bobbie. It was a horrible idea, but at the very least SD/JZ had chemistry and could act. Funny how long Sonny has been using whore to describe the ones he loves.

Vanessa Marcil is so beautiful there. Rena Sofer and Ricky Martin definitely got better looking with age. Love the Q pics, but I never found Scottie hot at all. Attractive, but not hot. Lucy was his only 'hot' pairing, although I think he had chemistry with Dominique, Bobbie, and Laura.