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I think the attackers identity didnt cheapen it...it shows that no one can be trusted. A lot of times, sexual assualts are done by someone the victim knows...and making it who they made it makes one have to be on their guard.

What is the story with anne howard bailey? Was she ad bad as the dobson's thought?

I recall after Eden was raped, that Gina came to see her and was chased off by CC. While i understood CC doing so, scenes like that added layers to the character of Gina.

Even a writer like Pam Long (that was a bad fit for the show) did do a few positive things in the final months of writing the show. When she wrote off Santana, she didnt kill her off..but had her leave town to start a new life in a successful attempt to break free of the past. She also created Lisa, who had an axe ro grind against Lily...using actual history of the show. She actually fit on the show. While Gina was all over the place, she did have the bright idea to pair her with Lionel. Everything else seemed a mess...but the show lost a lot of anchors and what she was doing to replace those anchors didnt quite work.

In regards to Eileen, I just imagined she was playing another character...and not Kelly Capwell. I truly think Eden leaving hurt the show....and that tells me that no soap should ever put their eggs in one basket. There were uploads of the first 90 or so episodes on youtube. You can totally see what is working and not working on the show. Joe #1/kelly were a good couple...and i liked the Perkins family..but since the show started in the 80s.. people would naturally prefered the Capwells/lockridges...though I did like the start of Brick/Amy.

I think the extended episode counts id partlt what caused the scripted element as well as besting a dead horse. Early years of OC and NY had less episodes...but a good balance between drama and day to day going ons (season 4 of OC is what i showed to inteoduce my mom and others to the OC. All of them loved that season...even with naked wasted included cause we didnt have all of them together all the time...etc). Hoever, with less episodes...i fesr that means only drama is shown with no dun scenes or day to day docus (deemed as filler by most)

Lydia is there for quirkiness...but im glad Heather isnt there anymore. Hoe many seasons can we have of her building that hotel.

Let us hope Toronto doesnt becomes toxic so quickly. An interview with Andy cohen...where he lists the 5 housewives he'd invite to a dream dinner party. Ive never seen plotomac so I dont know who that housewife is. http://people.com/food/andy-cohen-real-housewives-dinner-party/

What did everyone think of the Laura arc that lasted about a year and a half? Was it a surprise to everyone else that she became as crazy as she did...or were there clues?

I liked Ti Amo...just didnt like her with Mark. When she first came on, she was helping the police locate Casey...had a mutual respect thing going with Margo...and she and Hal were butting heads (and had chemistry)...then she was stuck in the kasnoff bubble for the remaining time on the show.

In order to make a city work...you habe to learn the dna of the city...and doing that will bring up natural conflict. Andy cohen is too shallow to truly understand that.

The problem was that the close friends all lived in the city....and for chicago...you needed some housewives that lived in the city and some that lived in the suburbs.

Yes..but would they have been written in such memorable ways by marland as they were under Pam long? His writing was often cold and reserved...hers was filledbwith more heart and emotion. The Dobsons were a perfect balance..imho

From what it sounds like..the Sydney show has descended onto S4 NY (yet there were some funny scenes like Ramona interviewing assistants and luann trying to teach her daughter to drive)...and OC season 11 toxicity (maybe Kelly from OC should move to sydney...shed fit in perfectly) In order for a ftanchise to work especially a new one...you need to know and care for the cast members...and yes...they need to not interact as much at first until we know them first...then interact and see the conflicts arise. I rememebr heaes ago, they tried to do a real housewives of chixago...but Andy cohen said no one interesting was found. From what i recall...they auditioned groups of 5 or 6 close friends together. However, if i were casting for my home city...how to gwnerate organic conflict is to cast women from the city and the suburbs (there is a huge suburb vs city debate)...sort of how on NY...Alex living in brooklyn and trying to social climb was such an organic conflict.

To be honest...Im glad he left GL. If he hadnt...we wouldnt have had the 4 muskateers, nor would we have had Billy/Vanessa..Alexandra, Fletcher, H.B, India, Harley, Frank, Nadine...and thats just off the top of my head. To me, Marland wasnt a great fit on GL. He was decent...but a lot of his stories the first year or so were due to the dobson material.

To me..Lily was more mature and fiesty when she was married to Damian. They used to have great maritql fights...both were passionate and fiery together. When Lily was with Holden...she alwayd turned into a needy stepford wife. While Bryne didnt like the business/corporate vibe Lily got when HR was playing Lily...she actually was pretty good when playing business atories. Lily/Holden worked better in the 80s..and both characters outgrew each other...yet fans didnt outgrow them. Supercouples saved soaps in the 80s..yet are killing them one by one since the 2000s. Supercouples are in the mold of a romance novel...they ride off in the sunset....they arent meant to be sustained long term together for years and years.

Phaedra is a lawyer so no surprise she gets away with her stunts. Porsha shouldve been fired a long time ago. She's a meaner version of gretchen of OC fame. I like that RHOBH is 'boring'. I like one franchise not to go too far into the gutter. Doritt needs to understand that not everyone is open and warm....some people are guarded and take time to warm to othersm. Erika has a strong friendship with Eileen..as well as one developing with Kyle. Im more like Erika....I dont call just anyone a friend...it takes time for me to develop a friendship...but once that friendship is developed...I cherish it. Dorit reminds me of someone i used to be friends eith...open and eager to call anyone a friend...yet easily gets their feelings hurt if the other person doesnt respond to them as quickly. Plus..Dorit is one of those types that is nice to your face yet talks smack about you to others when you arent around..same as with this previous friend of mine.

I lived in chicago and it was on at the 11:30 am (central time) slot...and it beat young and the restless. In Chicago..ABC news and daytime ranked #1 with NBC a close 2nd...and CBS was in last...daytime that is. Growing up...none of my friends mothers watched CBS..it was either ABC or NBC. With regards to the show..Dinah lee was a fascinating character...there was just something rootable about her. She came on originally as a nanny with designs on Jack..and due to jessica collins...the character became more then just a girl from the wrong side of the tracks. Plus, she and peluso's Ava made good buddies. The recast was a good actress..but she just wasnt Dinah Lee...and even the actress Elizabeth mitchell admitted she wasnt right for the part. I liked Peluso as Ava much better then Roya. Roya's take on Ava was too much like Erica Kane...and there is only one Erica..imho. I liked Trisha and was one of the few that bought her as a recast for Martha bryne on ATWT since Trisha in the 80s had the same function on this show that Martha Bryne's Lily had on ATWT. Its interesting to see how Lily progressed on ATWT because i think he would have tried something like that with Trisha. Stacey was the good girl that was always a loser in love...and she came across to me like a punching bag. I did like how her and Ava's history wasnt ignored...but brought up on occasion up to Stacey's murder in 1995. Was Jack and lily circa 1983 to 1984 a better pairing then him and Stacey down the line? Shame by 1986, Lorna didnt have much to do..at least in the few episodes ive seen.

The only post Reva return story that wasnt too bad was the brief time she was married to Buzz and working in the diner. They both knew they were platonic with occasional rompa in the hay....but that was cut short to restart the Annie/josh/reva triangle. What was funny was that before annie went crazy...it wasnt all pro reva/josh. There was a 50/50 divide between the two couples...but sadly Annie going crazy to make reva the winner was the start of a trend of lipsided triangles where one was the clear victor. The show assumed the brief rise in ratinga in 1997 was due to Reva...it wasnt...it was the stoey and mostly Annie.

I could see her more as a modern day Claudia...then either Amanda or fallon (katie cassidy). If she were to be cast..that is.

RHONY needs a little housecleaning, or at least getting rid if carole and Sonja or ramona. I liked teresa's brief spinoff show better when she was in jail...and you saw her family.

I think when the Justine story came out..it contradicted some of the backstory established. There was a confrontation between Spencer and Carl after Carl was revealed as Ryan's father where he said he was thankful that Ryan inherited his mothers goodness and none of carl's negative traits. Plus..the show tried to establish that Carl wad obsessed with Rachel for years due to her resembling Justine...when the truth was that Carl came to town because of Felicia and Donna....and had an axe to grind against Mac...nothing to do with Rachel. It was poorly planned..and resulted in ryan gettinf killed...and Vicky eventually reuniting with her sisters rapist Jake. 1995 to 1999 werw horrible years with some redeeming elements.

And priginally alexis was going to be a more subdued passive aggressive villiamess...but Joan Collins pushed for her to be the female JR Ewing.

I figure 1969 was just when the alice/Steve/rachel story was at its peak...and maybe the awards were for the year before...when that particular story was gaining momentum.

So I get that the network mandated that Ryan and Greenlee were to be a couple...but it takes a talented writer to make that mandate make sense. I think of all the headwriters that were forced to follow that mandate...Lorrain Broderick did the best job with writing to that. All other writers wrote it as if the two were destined to be together...but lorraine wrote the coupling in a way that made sense. To show that they both had lost a spouse (the loves of their life) and that they each knew ehat the other was feeling. And having both Gillian and Leo return for brief cameos...and seeing how much Ryan and greenlee missed them really drove that point across. This is the best example of how to make a mandate from the network make sense...imho