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Researching the blackout episodes from 1992...am I right to assume Bridget caused the blackout? I miss early Bridget..full of spunk and confidence. By 1996...i was praying for her to leave town..careful what I wish for since we traded Bridget for Cassie...ugh

Reading this makes me even sadder that Buzz is soon to arrive and cause Nadine to become isolated from the canvas. Nadine vs vanessa was good..and I even liked the unlikely friendship between Nadine and Holly.

Who would everyone say was their favorite non Roger love interest for Holly? And who would everyone say was their favorite non Holly love interest for Roger? In terms of story...id say Ross and holly were decent together...though in terms of chemistry...i did like Holly with that ex convict...that got cut short. For me...I liked Roger with sonni...especially since Sonni and Blake were clashing a lot. It was a shame that got cut short.

What you said about Bethenny is in the money. She does have entitlement issues and thinks she's above all the other women. What was fascinating was that she couldn't pull that with Heather...since Heather had her own business, was married, and had a legit career at Sean John well before the Housewives..plus was a slightly more nurturing alpha then Bethenny could ever be. If I recall, Bethenny grew to respect her by the end of the season. With that said, it was nice Bethenny just let Ramona hang herself out to dry...like Heather did numerous times in season 5 to Ramona (remember her following Ramona grinning lol). In some ways, I think Bethenny and Ramona are more alike then either would like to admit....its just that Ramona is crazy and drunk more.

I know Carolyn hinsey (soap columnist) is not liked..but I give people the benefit of the doubt..but she was upset that soaps weren't being shown due to comey testifying being shown live as she shared on her Facebook page. Seeing the replies to her rant made me pissed...and I said this is way more important then a soap episode not being shown. She said that it will be old news by the time people get home from work. You c ant reason with stupid..I guess In my view, Trump basically revealed his guilt..or knowledge of corruption (even if he didn't do it himself) the day he fired Comey as well as the day he tried to tweet a threat to Sally Yates.

I still think Pam Long would have been a good replacement for Marland. The Snyder's and hughes families would have been up her alley..and I think she would have had a good take on Lucinda. Her Texas and GL were good...and I've heard her brief stint closing out SFT was decent. What did everyone think of Lorraine Broderick? She had potential, but according to Eileen Fulton...all of her ideas were over ruled..and she was the last writer to feature Lisa (other then the brief 40 and 50 year celebration of her being on the show).

Seeing just the looks of both Kathy glass and Pamela Shoop...i habe a feeling the character of Allison changed with the recast. Kathy had a tortured, haunted look in her eyes..whike Pamela Shook didn't (plus, seeing her in Halloween 2..where she played a character that was anything but fragile)

When during the shows run would everyone agree that Ceuz/Eden dominated the show? Watching alot of the 1985 episodes...the show is working like a true ensemble with an equal focus on Lional/Augusta, Ted/Christy story, Mary/Mason, Amy/Brick, and Kelly/Nick/Dylan...and Sophia coming back from the dead...along with Santana/Gina....as well as Julia working as the crusading lawyer that tries to be Augusta's conscious.

Like others mentioned...pam long and Marland would have worked well as co head writers. He was organized, and disciplined with plot points and character....and she knew how to make each character have their own voice and was good at the emotional writing. She did well with the Reardons and expanded on the Lewis family on GL (Marland's creations)...so I think she could have written the Snyder's as well...and even maybe the Hughes family too.

Big mistake killing off Hayley...she was sweet..yet had a backbone. She also provided Gina with family and showing her soft side. Gina never quite got to show the soft side off like during the Hayley era..even when Lily came back in 1991.

The 1036 clip shows how sheltered and entitled Eden was. I liked that the show didn't portray Eden as all good...that some characters called her out on her entitlement. Which Capwells daughter would you all say was most entitled...Kelly or Eden?

No wonder his shows were very talky talky and more like gossip then actual conversations people would have in real life. (Regarding fine tuning each script). I know at GL...that the dobsons had a few writers write each script based on outlines provided by the Dobsons..it was more of a team effort...while Marland came in and seemed like a micromanage. His plots and pacing were good..but the day to day scripts were weak sometimes.

Marland did seem to water down his creations. I almost felt maybe he should habe left after 2 or 3 years. Keg and iba are prime examples of his creations that started out with spirit/personality but got bogged down over time. I could understand Iva changing since her rapist married into the family and never truly got punished. It's realistic and happens in more families then one would think. At least she kind of got a happy ending.

Of the two offers, I think Loving would have been a better fit. And I know she would habe done well with the college town with scandalous secrets well.

Bridget/julie/kat. Good years with those three. I would like to also say (changing subject) that Guiding light had a great unlucky in love character back in the 70s that the dobsons created yet didn't make pathetic..Katie. that is until Marland took over and made her pathetic..only somewhat reversed by Pam Long.

Samantha #1 had a good exit..and it was a shame she was let go. She found out Kirk was conning her and she conned him...stating 'never con a con' before she left. Samantha #2 wasn't accepted...and if I recall..she and Wiggins were the 90s versions of colleen ask and Mark pinter.

Samantha #2...i agree. I liked him with Samantha #1

I've liked a lot of the Pollack's stuff...but I do agree it isn't as character driven as it was under lakin/Edelstein. I will say that the Pollack' s could write a climax like no one else...and I think perhaps if lakin/Pollack's worked together...it would have been dynamite. Who knew Gil Gerald was hot back then I'm most intrigued with how his wife will fit in. She doesn't seem keen on Hope Memorial.

I actually thought seyfried got better once the show moved her character out of the JR/Jamie orbit..and interacted her with other people. Her character had a promising romeo/Juliet type of story with Reggie before both were written out.

I think the iva factor was due to the actress being popular as Nola. My mom had a soft spot for Iva..the unlucky in love heroine. I liked Craig with Emily (Melanie Smith's version)..even with Samantha (the first one).

Lecy's Becky was kind of a brat...so Darlene bursting her bubble was always entertaining season 1 through 3 before Darlene went gothic. With Sarah's Becky...yoi felt kind of sorry for her because she seemed cheerful and Darlene looked bitter and mean spirited bursting her bubble.

I actually think the show could have made it if it was less preachy and told a good story. It certainly seems like an intriguing concept.

To be honest, while I loved the shpw...i don't see the point of it coming back.

And all the barbara/Hal marriage angst and break up would have still worked...with Kim being involved since it was her nephew...causing angst for bob/kim as well...since bob and Rick didn't get along.

I know the Iris/Donna angle shifted once Anna s came back.