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Lydia and her mother shouls totally return...we need some fun to compensate for the toxicity of the other women.

As we've seen with Atlanta (sheree), NJ (Dina), and NY (bethenny)...bringing back a past housewife isn't always a good thing. With that said, if I could choose a past housewife to come back for the OC..it would be Lizzie because she has stuff going on in her personal life, plus she could spare with tamra..and is more sympathetic then Gretchen ever was. Plus, I feel there is more of her story that could be told. Gretchen has nothing going on in her life..and production in the season 8 special seemed happy to be rid of her. Plus, she was kind of like tamra....and one is enough LOL That said, I think it's time to perhaps evolve the franchise beyond petty fights, toxic behavior, and forced get togethers. I'm not sure where it would go...but given how mean spirited our society is nowadays...perhaps not rewarding bad behavior aNd shade on a reality show might be a good 1st step.

Erika and LVP are more alike..hence why Erika admitted the LVP that she is like a spider...and that while her questions are innocent, her intent behind the questions leave a lot tip be desired. Plus, Erika's almost blame response the Dorit's thirst and bethenny's attacks make her a unique personality on the franchise.

Before naked wasted...tamra was fairly liked and/or tolerated...but after that...all bets were off. I recall hearing rumors that Jeana was demanding behind the scenes for production to interfere during that episode...and I guess she knew where the show was going..hence why she left at the start of next season. Meghan seemed almost mature and a adult compared to the other women...she seemed more at home with her family during the gender cake reveal scene. She left at the right time..imho. Three housewives left after season 8...and season 9 was a great season with shannon and Lizzie joining. Kelly may provide drama..but I think for her sake..she needs to sit on the sideline and get herself together. Gretchen visiting would be ok..but I don't want a full time return unless she ditches Slade and is married....so at least she has something going on that's interesting.

I think up till Cathy kidnapped the baby...she still was redeemable...but once she snatched the baby...she was written into a corner.

There is a doctors fan page on facebook and the actress who played cathy last said that the writers wrote her out cause her story got too complicated...and that she would have stayed longer if the show hadn't written her off. I thought nick and Ann had chemistry ..so you might be right. From what I hear...john/althea/penny form a family unit for awhilw...and that there are some interesting scenes between John and penny...so you could be right that penny has john's #

When watching the Melrose revival show...there was a scene between Jo and Amanda...where they went to toe to toe..and Jo got the best of her verbally and via blackmail. Did the two interact all that much on the show (I know they did some in season 2..but can't recall inn season 3 or 4 if they did). While most peeps remember Allison vs Amanda....I liked when Amanda would tangle with other female characters. Sydney was like a knat to Amanda...but I did love when the two had to bunk together in season 4...hilarious lol. And I liked that Sydney double crossed Amanda before dying in the revival (even though I thought Sydney was more bitter then quirky...but years had passed so I could understand why)

Maybe Nene is in good spirits because she isn't on the show anymore. I think the show was fine last season..and it's still fine this season. I think the show needs new blood since Sheree's return hadn't worked as well. I'm for Nene coming back for visits...but not as a full time cast mate.

Rinna saying she was spared the addiction gene was laughable...someone should tell her that addiction manifests itself in different ways....for her... Kim seems to be her addiction. So Dorit, Eileen, and rinna are still talking pantygate....yet Erika is having fun in Greece... hmmm.. I guess having a life spares one from talk of pantygate

Wasn't the actress that played Nina upset that they lured her back in the late 80s only to write her off suddenly?

Speaking of the character of betsy....for those who watched the show....which actress did you like better in the role?

For a first day, Julia Duffy did well...and she and Liz Hubbard played well opposite each other. Plus, I didn't see any traces of her Newhart character at all. I can see why this was a golden era for the show...crazy Kathy ryker is hitting a climax...while we are getting the starts of 3 new characters (laurie, ann, and penny)

Sheree popped last season cause she was just a friend....the Greek chorus that commented on the train wreck of the other women. She should have stayed supporting..so she could go ton the events..maybe even the vacation...but not have to produce individual day to day scenes. I think if you have nothing going on in your personal day to day life...you should just be a friend....Brandi, on RHOBH should never have been full time due to not being allowed to film half of her life.

Season 8 had some good scenes for Val...where she wasnt a joke...but still an actual character with layers. I do think that the Lechowicks were decent writers...but wrote characters in very basic ways...meaning characters tropes...Karen the goody goody..Abby the bitch..Val the victim....hence why Laura was fired....she was not a character that fit a specific trope. I think theveryone Sumnerve Group focus helped the show transition into the late 80s/early 90s. Had the show continueed into the mid 90s..I think the show would have changed...maybe more focus in the cul de sac...since the mid to late 90s was a back to basic era.

In regards to the The Lechowicks...when do you guys think they truly started writing Val as the village idiot? I'm thinking the start of that danny storyline.

Was Paulina's back story from the moment she arrived thst she came from the foster system...or did that get added once judi Evans took over? I could buy the chip on their shoulder foster child angle with Evans playing the part...while Cali's take was softer, yet more manipulative...if that makes sense. Wasn't John getz's Neil also paired briefly with Angie perini? I assume the first angie..not The second one, right?

Season 2 was better because the show was more itself then trying to copy Full house. DJ is different in season 2 then she was in season 1. I think it is due the the backlash CCB got from her religious fans...hence the changes in season 2. Though it makes sense that she qould began different from the original show...She's more like a female danny in this show.

Best cure for insomnia....listening to Eileen express why she's upset with you. As kenya Moore would say 'is there a point to all this cause we're all bored' lol

Based on reading the history of television show...it seemed like Sudan was the more fascinating of the three Ames children...and certainly evolved over the years..yet the show wrote her out in the last few years...and kept Amy...who seemed kind of boring/dull.

I liked that Bianca was a goody goody..and didn't like the things Erica did. That was the perfect karma for Erica..imho

Sheree...a novelist? I'll buy it once a book is on Amazon or a nearby book shop. This is a woman that had She by Sheree..and Chateau unliveable. Even so, I love her. She seems less harsh then Kim Z or Nene were.

I loved Anna....she had a cool, calm, and confident manner. She did PR work for the hospital...while being the voice of reason for Carolee. She didn't spark with a lot of the love interests they paired her with. Though the Pollacks did give her a happy ending.

I liked it...and loved that they had Gloria Estefan sing the original theme It has the same concept as the original, yet it stands on its own.

Here is a novel concept, but why not just hire interesting women...so the need for fueds, shade, and drama is minimal. After a horrible election season, I'd rather see people that are mature enough to resolve their issues like adults....and not be rewarded for being trainwrecks. Dear to dream...I know lol

Its nice Kenya left Phaedra alone...and the moment she did...all the tea has spilled...and Kenya had nothing to do with it. Still...are we surprised about this tea? Im certainly not....after all.. Pheadra has always tried to pretend she is something she isnt....Remember her lying about her due date..and Kim Z exposed it due to her nursing background....and even had the documents to prove she had a nursing degree lol