Soaplovers

Grant Show is perfect...masculine, still sexy, and can be both nice yet sinister.

Been watching the early episodes (when Roy Winsor was still story consultant)..and I like that its a traditional soap...with some christian overtures...which I hear became more then overtures as the show continued. Whats interesting is an article from 1984 announcing the show being cancelled..with the reason being low ratings and a lack of advertising revenue. Also, the reason for this was due to a huge drop in stations carrying the show...hence the drop in ratings and revenue. Guess even cable soaps/shows had affialiate issues as well. It also shows that the 80s killed more soaps not due to people being disinterested...but cause of a lack of access to the shows. http://www.nytimes.com/1984/08/23/arts/christian-broadcast-network-cancels-its-cable-soap-opera.html

Reva from 1983 to 1985...and 1989 through 1990 were her best years...when she wasnt being shoved down everyones throats. She was fromt burning...yet other characters had a chance to shine. I liked the Bridget/julie/kat trio of the early 90s. It was the last time the show truly had younger characters with decent talent (outside the brief time Joie Lenz played Michelle).

Didnt the hughes set stop being shown once the show moved studios? I know the kitchen was shown for awhile...but I missed the living room/entry way. Of all the sets to aurvive to the end...the Snyder set was an eye sore and should have been trashed.

I do agree Kim and Brandi were kept on longer then they should of...but theyre gone now (at least Brandi is)..with Kim only back for guest appearances. Carleton was too toxic and Joyce was too intelligent and normal (by housewife standards) for the show. Though I would have had Carleton on the OC just to see how vicki and tamra wpuld have reacted to her especially seeing Vicki go all spastic. I recall once when ramona was a guest on bethannys talk show..Ramona described Carleton as the scaryblady who cast spells on people so i think Ramona reacting to carleton would have been funny lol

Production needs to stop scripting....this LVP and Erika both being on dancing with the stars could be a fun back and forth. Erika is snarky and season 6 proved that they were able to banter. Erika seems like someone that doesnt care about petty stuff...or as much as anyone else. You could see how much she didnt care about Dorit and pantygate. Eileen...im cutting some slack to because of being in grief. I think cause ive been in grief for about a yeae...sometimes you shut down, come across as cold...but some people dont like expressing grief with tears. I do think her beef with lVP was due to grief..imho. BH knows when to cut loose those toxic people eventually...unlike OC and NJ

LVP should take the high road...but at the same time, Rinna did do a number on her last season...so I cant blame her for feeling a little vindicated that Rinna is looking like a liar. Can rinna vs Kim be put to bed already? Eileen's expressions were a high light..and you could tell even in her talking heads that she was struggling to put a positive spin to Rinna lol Some people on Twitter are saying this season of BH is boring...but I disagree. Its finally gotten the balance between the old and current version down at least in the 1st part of the season...then thr second half of the season becomes too much about feuds/storylines with little focus on their indivisual day to day activities. Im hoping when season 8 films..that it falls during Erika's Dancing with the star stint...especially with LVP being on there before..could be fun to see how Erika does....and flashbacks to when LVP did it before...with some British shade from LVP especially of Erika does better then her lol

Watching season 1 and surprised at different the show is. It really is like the Waltons, but with vineyards. I laugh that the late Earl hamner sidnt want the show to turn into another Dallas..yet is does just that in the 2nd season. Seeing the first few episodes, im not thinking Julia's change into a psycho makes perfect sense. The foundation was being laid out.

Amanda was an underwritten character, which was proven once Oxenberg was fired and recast with that horrid recast. In essence, Oxenberg has a certain charisma then helped make Amanda more then what the writers provided. Dynasty, Falcoln Crest, and Dallas pretty much ended in the 80s even though two of them lasted into 1990 and 1991. Knots Landing made a pretty good transition into the 90s..and had the budget not gotten slashed so badly...the show could have had a 15th season (since CBS wanted to renew it). The 90s was back to the basics..hence why KL did well in the early 90s

Marland was good with plot and community...but a lot of his characters were dull. His ATWT was decent, but kind of boring.

Ugh at kelly...guess OC is the show with the trashy housewives. I guess Erika has sealed her pitch for material for season 8 of the housewife show...since BH usually films in the summer/early fall.

The only time Bliss had any sort of putpose was when she sided eith her mother over her father..and was cold and bitchy to her future step mother Frankie. She could have been the free spirit..anti money and more a free spirited hippie that shunned all that the Colby family offered.

The problem with all the franchises is this need for a storyline. This is why reality shows have become so scripted..because real life isnt a storyline..its about vignettes..or one off scenes that dont lead anywhere. With that said, BH needs women with interesting lives.

Ive never forgiven the CW for how they basically trashed Ringer...even though it got decent ratings because it didnt reach the demo they wanted. CW banked in drawing in SMG fans...yet didnt realize her fan base was outside their target demo. So with this wisdom, im expecting Dynasty to also fail because it probably wont appeal to the demos CW wants. Still Ill do a wait and see.

Which is why in season 7 I liked Lexi vs Amanda...hoe the show set that up made no sense...but i forgave it because it worked

For me....ditch Archie...and just focus on betty and Veronica.

Thats why Im wondering if perhaps OWN should pick up fewer episodes per season...maybe just pick up 10 episodes per season...thst way Mr perry wont feel the need to add filler to pad out the episodes.

Yipee!!! Im betting a late fall drop date for season 3 if they are taping in march. I didnt get the point of Eva la rue being on as Danny's wife. I would have coaxed the actress that played his lady love vicky out of retirement..especially if it was a one episode a season gig.

The mini series Bare Essence just got uploaded to youtube the other day. The success of that mini series led to a short lived prime time soap on NBC in early 1983. As we know, like all attempts at a prime time soap at NBC, the show tanked either due to bad time slot, recasting of key parts, or how the show proceeded from the mini series to series. From what Genie Francis said, she didnt think the show handled her character well in the tv show since her character had gotten everything she worked for including her love interest by the end of the mini series. Based on reading episode guides, even watching old episodes years ago that someone had uploaded on youtube. It appears that the show picks up after the mini series concludes..and promptly has the lead character Tyger become a widow in the 1st episode thus having her fight for her place in the company while her late husbands family bands against her. In a way, the show opts to go with the premise that Dallas originally was planning for Pam (losing her husband at the start of the series/marriage and having to battle his family). Based on what i recall....Dallas changed their mind because it didnt make sense for Pam to stay around to fight the family so early in her marriage to Bobby without any ties like a child. As we see with Bare Essence, we see that the showrunners at Dallas were right to not pursue that premise It makes me wonder if perhaps It would have been better to make the tv series start with Tyger coming into the lives of the Marshalls....a reboot of sorts of the mini series.

Im wondering if the problem sith the show is that OWN is ordering too many episodes that tyler perry's quality has declined? Of course, it would help if he had co writers...but since he refuses...maybe OWN should lower the episode order. Ive been watching Too close to home on TLC..and each season is 8 episodes...and while the scenes are still long...there is actual movement in plot and they arent repeating words too much.

People say Patrick duffy leaving killed the show..but the dream season finished in the top 5...others say that the show died when they came up with the dream season explanation...the show did drop to 10 or 11...but Pam quitting caused the show to leave the top 20. The backbone of the show was JR vs Pam...imho

I almost gave you side eyed for the vancouver mention till I saw you referenced season 1 of vancouver...which was a good season and not as toxic as season 2. What Im noticing about all the new housewide shows here and abroad us that theyre only focusing on the petty fights with less focua on the day to day stuff. What made the earlier versions work was a healthy balance between drama and the day to day stuff (which is why I love that the hamlin girls are getting talking heads where theyre eye rolling their mom lol).

I watched season 1 of RHOBH and LVP looked so much better. I know it was 6 or 7 years ago...but her make up was less severe, she wore more shirts with ieans, and her hair wasnt so bumpit like. Last nights wpisode......Lisa rinna...queen of Alternative facts

Now my fantasy of a scene of Lydia's mother and shannon can come true. I do think her mother will need an extra batch of fairy dust with the toxic nature of the other women lol

Lizzie opted to drop down to a friend role because she was busy eith her line and working the USA pagaent to focus on promoting the show..or doing all the group activities.