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Many of the powerful in the party or those who are powerful enough to be heavily courted are not far off Joe Manchin, who is probably overjoyed right now, when he isn't recording ads for Republicans, anyway: And sure enough, the media is already doing what they do best - deflect, distract, crawl up their own asses. We aren't meant to care about how many are going to suffer and die, we are meant to care about the process and the breaking of precious, prescious DC norms:

They won't. Many of them do not give a damn. They won't be affected - they live in very liberal enclaves, they are wealthy due to their parents or grandparents. They will be fine. You will see Brie Brie Joy and friends working hard to focus all efforts on blaming Biden and saying there's no point in voting for either party. There are large pressure campaigns and media campaigns (because the media would kill every single one of us with their bare hands for access to one Trump interview) to go against abortion, birth control, same-sex relationships, etc. This is not just going to be about one or two things. It will be everything. Sodomy laws and any legal rights between same-sex couples, including hospital visitation or wills, gone soon. likely alongside laws encouraging that openly queer people be fired from their jobs. Birth control. Interracial marriage not far behind. This country is likely dead and I just hope people who can leave go while they still can.

Can't wait to hear from all the people who insisted this would never happen. And this is just the start.

Thank you for the OLTL clips/memories @Vee Jerry tried very hard there, in a very difficult part.

Lisby played Calla Matthews, Lillian's sister. Ross and Calla were involved around that time.

I couldn't stop thinking about this: Jerry had only been on GL for 6 years at this point, and had never shared heavy story with Charita Bauer. Yet here he was, put into the role of elder statesman, at 35 years old. Looking back, it is absolutely ridiculous, and shows you just how out of control the backstage situation at GL had become. Yet he wore it with such dignity and grace, as he always did. Jerry and Charita, treasures we can never appreciate enough.

Heartbroken to hear this. Jerry was one of the most talented and understated actors I ever saw on a soap, or anywhere. He was also a truly beautiful man, inside and out. I don't think it can be undersold just how crucial he was to GL, even though they never fully understood it. To think that he went from being a sleazy lawyer to being one of GL's cornerstones - and it's longest-running cast member - in only 5 years speaks volumes. I will dearly miss him and I am so grateful I got to grow up seeing him on my television 3-4 days a week, every week.

That was a genuinely gripping article. I didn't want it to end, especially on a cliffhanger. That show has been on so long and I have steadfastly avoided it for so many years now I keep doing a double take at the various people who have been on it. The legendary Debbie Allen? Greg Germann, the guy on Ally McBeal known for making women orgasm by touching their necks or whatever the [!@#$%^&*] that story was?

So they brought Craig back and ruined his character just for the sake of another Leo vendetta no one gives a damn about? Ron is a destructive, talentless never-was, like so many other writers who have destroyed this genre.

Once I saw that he made a jab about Afghanistan (which for all the talk of media criticism, is exactly what they would have done), I decided not to bother. I really don't like Trevor Noah anyway.

She was so much hissable fun in The Parent Trap.

They should have had him play Diana Colville.

My mother recently saw a bit of their concert footage and told me she didn't think Naomi looked well at all. Still, I didn't expect this so soon. Heartbreaking. I love the old Judds songs from the '80s, especially Grandpa, Tell Me Bout the Good Old Days. They were a key part of country having a more natural comeback in the '80s.

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The full article hadn't been posted. His response is to claim it doesn't matter now because he was in his early 20s (he is now...26) and blathering on about fighting the leftists. And of course: We're going to be getting those dick-in-mouth photos by next week if this goes on much longer, I am increasingly sure.

Yes, this was the most I've seen of Marguerite's Mamie actually doing anything, and I immediately got that vibe as well. I can actually believe it a bit more with her than with VRF, who was much warmer than the often very cold Abbott dynamics. The Mamie/John idea was extremely daring, but something that Y&R was likely too conservative in viewership to ever pull off. I think if Bell had been more on all cylinders the idea would never have gone through.

With a man who has been accused of domestic violence. Probably better to just dump this.

I love how bizarrely feverish the normally staid recast announcement is here...talk about a harbinger for the next four years. This whole sequence is peak Bill Bell Y&R. The opaque camera angles creating such an oppressive atmosphere and making the Abbott home feel as much like a prison as a refuge. How deep in character and drive and yet how off Jill, Dina and Mamie all are in their own ways, which makes the scene feel increasingly delirious as we go from Dina spying on Jill to facing off with Mamie to facing off with Jill. As Camille Paglia once said about Nikki, the scenes represent the essence of femininity and womanhood, but in this case, in nightmarish ways. Everyone is trapped in their own hell and either trying to get out, or just don't know how. I didn't realize Bell just ended up re-using the hiding letter idea with Dina, John, and that Constance Towers character 13 years later. Now I have even more disdain for that plot.

Thanks @Soapsuds I do think Caso was one of the last producers who tried to keep some of the last vestiges of the ATWT identity alive, but he really wasn't a strong enough producer nor did he pick strong enough writers at key moments after Marland passed. Anyway, this is off topic now, sorry.

Thanks. I probably will, although it's going to be tough to watch. Yes. Even though 1993 was a decently rated year for the show, I imagine the budget cuts were kicking in, and characters who had been written into a corner or who had not been central players in a while were among the first to go. Not that it's really the same but this is also when Lucinda's daughter Bianca left and forgotten about by everyone at the show but Liz Hubbard. I know Marland and Lisa were very close, so I wonder how much their friendship had helped keep Iva on the show up to that point as she could have gone after the Aaron reveal (I wonder if that's another reason he also had her get pregnant with John's baby).

Lisa was fired in fall 1993 around the same time Anne Sward was. Iva gave up fighting for Aaron (which I really hated and it made me hate Holden for years because he barely spent time with that child) and left for a new life with Jason Benedict. I'm sorry I missed the tribute. I hope it went well. I think Iva made some appearances in 1994. I can't remember about 1995.

I think he will deny to the end, but I won't be surprised if he does drop out of office, issue a vague statement about "loving everyone in the name of freedom" and then going the Schock round, amped up even further, by posting thirst traps at every America First convention he attends.

He feels like he is straight out of one of those "the Nazis were all gay" propaganda pieces. The whole thing with the wife he just happened to "meet" while in Russia, or whatever that story was, makes me wonder if he was being set up for heavy blackmail material that is now being blown up because they've realized he's too stupid and unreliable. He also seems like the type of guy who desperately wishes he could just [!@#$%^&*] himself. (as far as I'm concerned he CAN go [!@#$%^&*] himself) He has repeatedly shifted the scrutiny by blaming "the left." I wonder if he will again now or if he will retire. This last dump feels like a warning of what will be next.

Another day, another media dump on Miss Madison.

Don't bother.