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Thanks. I was probably thinking of Nick Benedict as he was the second Phil. I wonder if Rosemary was ever asked. I know there's something poignant in Amy just leaving and never returning but there was good material left unmined for a future appearance. I do hope there's more out there. I know there were a few episodes Rosemary Prinz may have had (unless these were the episodes). And yes anything in color would pop after so many kinescopes - I think we've only ever seen a minute or two, in Ann's boutique.

Thanks @All My Shadows I completely missed those when I looked through that account. The AMC I saw were just Soapnet repeats. Rosemary Prinz is such a wonderful actress. Those scenes with Phil and Amy are tough to take - just the right type of soap performance. I wish they had found a way to bring Amy back sometime before they killed Nick off, even for a visit. Or even after Nick was killed, to meet Charlie. So rare to get the screaming and wailing we get from Ruth late in the second episode too. I sometimes think the show made Ruth too stoic later on. Joe looks oddly different with that side part.

That's such a beautiful image. I'd like to believe that's what she is doing right now.

I was just thinking again recently about her absence and then was reminded in a Donna Mills interview I found yesterday about how important she and Leslie were to Love Is a Many Splendored Thing. Heartbreaking. So many losses for the GH family but this is one that directly affects so many of my GH memories. By the time I started watching GH, Monica was more of a support character, but I still appreciated Leslie's work in any scene she had. There are few soap actors who ever crackled with as much life force as Leslie did. She could often be reserved in drama and wry in comedy, but you never sensed she didn't care. No matter how rote the material might be, she always gave everything she had. I was fascinated when watching her. She was one of the most intelligent actresses soaps ever had. And something she never got enough credit for was just what an easy chemistry she had with all her scene partners, whether in love or war, in giving medical news or being a mother or having a coffee with Bobbie or putting up with Amy's nonsense. She loved the Quartermaines even when the show didn't. I remember her quote about how Gloria Monty had tried to get rid of the family with the Eckers, and by the end, most of the Eckert scenes took place in the Quartermaine living room. I'm sorry she wasn't able to be there during the relative renaissance period of the last few years for the family, but they wouldn't have even gotten to this point without her. I've never forgotten the interview she gave to SOD about how uncomfortable her debut as Monica was because she had to tell her co-stars that Patsy Rahn (Monica #1) had been fired. She was also a huge Elvis fan, and Elvis had recently passed away. Eerie as Elvis had his birthday not long ago. She has some good stories here on this subject: https://www.soapoperadigest.com/content/tbt-leslie-charleson-2/

Promo around 7 minutes in.

At around 7 minutes there's a promo with some footage I've never seen (as we have so little of 1985). Is that Stacey getting into a fight with Ava?

Thanks so much.

Insert the why not both gif.

I think if Joanna Going had stayed, the writing would have been more balanced. Vicky tends to scrap with a number of women and the writing is generous toward them, even when the actresses aren't the strongest. The issue here is not only was Joanna Going...going, but there was so much more story in a baby between Vicky and Jamie as well as Vicky sleeping with her sister's husband. If the writing had been better and Jamie had been cast more strongly in these years, I think there was so much more with Vicky and Jamie as a couple that they could have done.

Thanks @Chris B And the beautiful Reed Diamond too.

Why do those thumbnails make me think Maurice is planning to become a magician?

Probably David Tom's first run as I remember him hurling a lot of that abuse at her when he first came back to Genoa City.

You're right. I forgot how long that story was (not counting Adam learning, which went nowhere). I won't disagree about how bad much of their ATWT run was. ATWT was in such dire straits in the early '80s it's amazing how the show managed to turn around by the mid '80s. GL had the opposite track. GL was extremely lucky that it got so many second chances and twists of fate.

I forgot about that. I need to get around sometime to watching the full movie.

Thanks @Paul Raven . I never knew Marland felt daytime would move to short stories. His GL stories are a bit shorter than what came before him (the Dobsons drew out stories for years) but by the time he moved to ATWT he seemed to let that go ("the truth about Aaron" ran for two years and Carolyn's murder for over a year and a half). The part about viewers being more forgiving of younger characters is interesting. I am not sure if that was true at the time but I don't think it is now. Instead soaps have just started writing older characters as if they were younger, like Nick the perpetual frat boy on Y&R. And young characters are written as older. "The only taboo in daytime is incest" is something I've heard him say elsewhere, IIRC, but I don't really agree. Soaps "covered" homosexuality and interracial relationships by the time of this article, but they faced visceral backlash. And I'm not sure they ever really progress significantly. But I imagine he knew this as he did try to do intelligent stories about both topics when he was at ATWT. I imagine he would weep at how deeply conservative soaps are now. @Mitch64 has spoken about this at times, better than I could, about the narcotized conversations, needing to redeem or clean up most characters, the emphasis on therapy, etc. I don't mind it as much at ATWT because I think the show is crisper, the cast is better at making these conversations seem natural, and you have Lisa and Lucinda who just couldn't ever be completely tamed (especially Lucinda). And I think it suits ATWT's core identity more than GL. I notice it more in his GL run, which can often feel very moribund to me.

Thanks for the responses. A shame they didn't do more with her. I guess at least it wasn't as bad as what they gave Loni Anderson.

Thanks. That's lovely.

Thanks. Glad you enjoyed it. Yes. This issue was dated December 17, so probably October or November.

I don't think she was even playing Mindy. It was an extremely weak, limited portrayal. Very difficult to watch.

I had to trawl through Google. That tribute of yours will never leave us though. I don't know if another soap that hadn't been established/dominant for as long as Y&R had would have survived the MAB years. The interviews alone were meme hell.

Yikes. That was my reaction too, Ridge...

A December 1996 SOD mentions ATWT casting an upper-class guy in his 20s named Brad. They said Todd McKee was approached but declined. (Todd McKee was not in his 20s by that time)

Indeed.

Thanks @JAS0N47 . I'd forgotten John Aprea was on DAYS. So many tragic losses.

@Maxim Now there's a B&B horror I remember (I had never seen that Daphne woman - what a clip...). Another I remember from somewhere in that period was when Ridge took advantage of a drunk or pilled out Brooke and this was seen as no big deal.