I absolutely think she did it. I think everything they're doing now is simply trying to obfuscate it.

Is it possible that WIllow might be faking DID or whatever? You know, like how we all know she was faking her cancer (even if the show refused to come out and say so)?

23 minutes ago, Khan said:

Is it possible that WIllow might be faking DID or whatever? You know, like how we all know she was faking her cancer (even if the show refused to come out and say so)?

If she did I would respect it. It's not a bad story angle. But they haven't fully leaned into Willow being a villainess yet (or at least haven't tipped the hand onscreen) and they should. MacMullen is doing very good work and the right handling of her mayhem could get her at least several more years on the show IMO.

Edited 7 hours ago7 hr by Vee

3 hours ago, titan1978 said:

Just let Willow be who she is- a trauma survivor that has never gotten help and has run from man to man to rescue her or give her attention, and it’s all unraveling and not working anymore. On top of that, she lost her kids. And I think even more important to her psychology is that she isn’t being seen as an innocent person in all this anymore. This latest life blowup has opened her up to visibility that doesn’t paint her as a damsel in distress or victim

I totally agree with this. Willow’s character arc is one of the show’s more coherent tbh.

Cynthia Watros was so funny on Friday’s ep, sanitizing the office, etc.

2 hours ago, Vee said:

If she did I would respect it. It's not a bad story angle. But they haven't fully leaned into Willow being a villainess yet (or at least haven't tipped the hand onscreen) and they should. MacMullen is doing very good work and the right handling of her mayhem could get her at least several more years on the show IMO.

4 hours ago, titan1978 said:

Just let Willow be who she is- a trauma survivor that has never gotten help and has run from man to man to rescue her or give her attention, and it’s all unraveling and not working anymore. On top of that, she lost her kids. And I think even more important to her psychology is that she isn’t being seen as an innocent person in all this anymore. This latest life blowup has opened her up to visibility that doesn’t paint her as a damsel in distress or victim.

As I see it, Willow Tait Quartermaine is the most dangerous kind of woman: the kind who has nothing left to lose. So, why NOT allow her to decide she's no longer willing to "play nice" and figure out a way to avoid prison and still get even with Drew and everyone else she believes has betrayed her? That's the kind of "heel turn" that many soap fans live for. So, of course, that means Frank Valentini ain't gonna do it, lol.

35 minutes ago, Khan said:

As I see it, Willow Tait Quartermaine is the most dangerous kind of woman: the kind who has nothing left to lose. So, why NOT allow her to decide she's no longer willing to "play nice" and figure out a way to avoid prison and still get even with Drew and everyone else she believes has betrayed her? That's the kind of "heel turn" that many soap fans live for. So, of course, that means Frank Valentini ain't gonna do it, lol.

It feels like a natural progression to me!

41 minutes ago, Khan said:

As I see it, Willow Tait Quartermaine is the most dangerous kind of woman: the kind who has nothing left to lose. So, why NOT allow her to decide she's no longer willing to "play nice" and figure out a way to avoid prison and still get even with Drew and everyone else she believes has betrayed her? That's the kind of "heel turn" that many soap fans live for. So, of course, that means Frank Valentini ain't gonna do it, lol.

They're halfway there for me. Willow has married Drew to (as she told Nina) secure her children via his power and influence. If she's shot him as well she could easily acquire something compromising on him to keep him in her pocket if/when he discovers this. I'd then have Drew take back the Quartermaine name for both of them to leverage politically (because right now the end credits have them both as 'Drew and Willow Cain' after Drew was stupidly 'forced' to relinquish the family name) and they'd continue a twisted yet still sexually involved marriage for some time while both having other partners and schemes.

The marriage would not last forever, but why not play into it by having them both treat each other with masks off?

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46 minutes ago, Khan said:

As I see it, Willow Tait Quartermaine is the most dangerous kind of woman: the kind who has nothing left to lose. So, why NOT allow her to decide she's no longer willing to "play nice" and figure out a way to avoid prison and still get even with Drew and everyone else she believes has betrayed her? That's the kind of "heel turn" that many soap fans live for. So, of course, that means Frank Valentini ain't gonna do it, lol.

It would definitely be the reset that Willow could use, as a character.

They seem to be pretty much on the way there unless something truly stupid happens BTS (which, always possible!). But it's moving very slowly. Willow is irrational and has done crazy stuff but she hasn't gone overtly black hat yet, possibly in part because they are (IMO) trying to convince us she didn't shoot Drew.

I wouldn't put it past this show to say Drew shot himself, lol.

2 hours ago, Vee said:

Willow has married Drew to (as she told Nina) secure her children via his power and influence. If she's shot him as well she could easily acquire something compromising on him to keep him in her pocket if/when he discovers this. I'd then have Drew take back the Quartermaine name for both of them to leverage politically (because right now the end credits have them both as 'Drew and Willow Cain' after Drew was stupidly 'forced' to relinquish the family name) and they'd continue a twisted yet still sexually involved marriage for some time while both having other partners and schemes.

The marriage would not last forever, but why not play into it by having them both treat each other with masks off?

I like the way you think - mostly because, in this case, I thought the same thing myself, lol.