6 hours ago, Taoboi said:

I was one of the ones who cried foul when they tried to humanize her immediately after the Eva reveal. But that part of the story should have been Nicole's POV more than SilkPress's. Right now, the only way she can stay around IS if they start to humanize her somewhat. She's been running around a little too long as of late like some cartoon character in spite of TMG's great acting. 

 

Right up to the reveal, TMG seem to find any and all moments to humanize her character. Even with the reveal, she still found that throughline in her performance. So it's sad that it seems the character is overwhelming the nuances she was able to find so well earlier. More of that please.

MVJ should have watched how Bill Bell wrote Sheila on B & B from 1992 to 1995 where she had moments where she was human, acted rational, but would sometimes veer toward acting up if she was threatened.  And she wasn't campy at all.

How Sheila Carter was written during those 3 years was exactly how SPS should be written.

16 minutes ago, Soaplovers said:

perhaps you should think about watching Hallmark Channel movies

Ugh.  That's what everyone says when I state my opinion and NO. I do *not* want to watch Hallmark movies. Not at all. Sheesh.

It really is possibly to have bad guys invoke lots of drama and then lose.  Happens all the time -- weekly on SVU and periodically on Star Trek. 

I do agree that there aren't any heroes on BTG. Jacob tries to be a hero, but isn't one yet. Naomi was a hero until last week when she opened a closed adoption.

I think Nicole is the only character that's sort of written as a hero, but they don't give her much of a point of view or much to do.
 

15 minutes ago, Soaplovers said:

MVJ should have watched how Bill Bell wrote Sheila on B & B from 1992 to 1995 where she had moments where she was human, acted rational, but would sometimes veer toward acting up if she was threatened.  And she wasn't campy at all.

How Sheila Carter was written during those 3 years was exactly how SPS should be written.

I still have PSTD from Sheila Carter's first years on Y&R.  I never stopped loathing her and she has never seemed human to me.  Nothing B&B has ever done has changed that for me.

1 hour ago, Soaplovers said:

MVJ should have watched how Bill Bell wrote Sheila on B & B from 1992 to 1995 where she had moments where she was human, acted rational, but would sometimes veer toward acting up if she was threatened.  And she wasn't campy at all.

How Sheila Carter was written during those 3 years was exactly how SPS should be written.

Hahah. We were just discussing that a second ago over in the B&B thread for the character of Sheila's grandchild Luna. Same problem, but I feel SilkPress can still be salvaged. 

1 hour ago, Soaplovers said:

  Soap operas haven't been about the villains getting their just dessert since the 90s, unless they become completely unhinged... and she isn't quite there yet.

Now it hasn't been that farrrrr back. Some villains still get theirs. Of course, the problem becomes it is usually the stock villain du jour rather than the stay-on more complex villains, but still...

1 hour ago, Paul Raven said:

So who has been receiving the trust money up until now?

As far as I know, they haven't elaborated on whether anyone has yet received a distribution from the trust.  Anita knows there are some living relatives, because she commented she "wished" she'd invited them to attend the reunion concert in August, but she failed to.  She probably thinks Barbara's relatives are all living high on the hawg on her trust contributions.  Right now, as far as we know, 25% of the Articulette's royalties from 1970 onward could still be sitting there in the trust account waiting for Peaches to be located so Peaches can lead the trustees to Leslie. 

Like @janea4old I'd like to see Leslie fall sooner or later.  But not right now.  I'd rather wait and see her have a big SPECTACULAR fall after she's driven the Duprees half crazy first, lol.  To me that's the fun of a villain like Leslie --- to see them ultimately crash & burn.  

6 minutes ago, Broderick said:

ike @janea4old I'd like to see Leslie fall sooner or later.  But not right now.  I'd rather wait and see her have a big SPECTACULAR fall after she's driven the Duprees half crazy first, lol.  To me that's the fun of a villain like Leslie --- to see them ultimately crash & burn.  

Same. I'm sure she will have one. No way for anyone to be on her side in the audience until she takes some Ls. 

I wanna see Leslie get her just desserts in some "poetic" manner. 

Maybe in February of 2027, Laura will be driving to work across the Chesapeake Bay Bridge, see a WIG lying in the road, think it's a kitty-cat, swerve to avoid hitting it, accidentally strike Leslie's new Mercedes-Benz, and send Leslie head-first into the Atlantic, lol.  

LOL. Not a wig swerve!!

39 minutes ago, Broderick said:

I wanna see Leslie get her just desserts in some "poetic" manner. 

Maybe in February of 2027, Laura will be driving to work across the Chesapeake Bay Bridge, see a WIG lying in the road, think it's a kitty-cat, swerve to avoid hitting it, accidentally strike Leslie's new Mercedes-Benz, and send Leslie head-first into the Atlantic, lol.  

This just cracked me up because I can already imagine the dramatic and poor soap opera CGI to pull this off and it’s hysterical 😂

Tricia Mann-Grant is the breakout star of BtG and she should move on to bigger and better things after finishing her initial contract. I say one contract is a decent shelf life for a villainess.

9 minutes ago, kalbir said:

Tricia Mann-Grant is the breakout star of BtG and she should move on to bigger and better things after finishing her initial contract. I say one contract is a decent shelf life for a villainess.

That brings up the question- are the contract players on 3 year contracts?

1 minute ago, Paul Raven said:

That brings up the question- are the contract players on 3 year contracts?

I don't know what the initial contract length is. I always thought three years was CBS daytime standard contract.

Yeah, I am wondering that as well re: is the contract 3 years? Cuz don't some new shows and projects still do 5 years?

5 hours ago, janea4old said:

I think it will be convoluted and interesting drama, and I'm sure Ms. Tunie will be great.

But ...  not a good storyline for me --  I won't be feasting.  The more I think about this, the more I absolutely hate the idea of Leslie getting more power and influence.

It's a big deal for me -- I don't want villains to profit.  I just don't.  I feel there's enough horrid things in the world, that I want to escape to drama where things get intense but the villains ultimately pay.   I *need* to see the heroes win sometimes.

I've posted this before, and will say it again -- I don't want villains hanging out with the heroes.  I feel it dilutes everything.  Yes Trisha Mann-Grant is a great actress, but I just don't want to see Leslie anymore on my screen.  I'd rather the actress got a job in the movies, she'd do great.   Send Leslie to jail, don't give her money.

Seriously if this starts being a Leslie-dominated show, I'll just stop watching.  Life is too short for me to spend my time feeling frustrated.

 

4 hours ago, Paul Raven said:

So who has been receiving the trust money up until now?

As for Leslie,having her as an attempted murderer is a step too far. But that decision was made, probably in keeping with today's soaps letting this sort of stuff go unpunished.

I don't like it either. It's just lazy writing.

Tamara actually said that one of the annoying things about being the token black character is that they were always presented as morally good because the networks wanted to avoid accusations of racism. Tamara seems to enjoy playing someone like Anita who certainly has some not so nice sides to her.

Fast forward to 56:00 in this interview and you will hear her say that.