BTG: May 2025 Discussion Thread

[janea4old]

a reference to a mystery character on Y&R named "Aristotle Dumas" who has been discussed a zillion times in the past few months but never seen.  Not mad at the character.  Mad at Y&R writer Griffith for the annoyance.
Mentioned to point out the annoyances of Y&R in contrast to enthusiasm for BTG.

Edited 7 hours ago by janea4old

[Contessa Donatella]

I would submit to you that she doesn't need any more excuses, not when it comes to Bill. But, I am one fan who thinks Bill isn't done with Dani & also the reverse is so. Those two, IMO, are locked in some kind of toxic but  irresistible vortex. I'm not saying we're going to have scifi. Just the personality kind of vortex.

OH!!! Thanks. I don't do Y&R. But I totally understand anger even frustration with Josh.

[Gatecrashers]

Nahh, Bill is through with Danielle, but I am getting so sick of her "all about me" attitude, so I am here for his shade.

[Chris B]

Ashley and Derek have been so isolated that I need the show to develop something, anything to justify their presence. It's not that I think Joey being her father will be the greatest story ever told but at least it would be something and connect her to more characters.

I just need the show to move forward with them. Out of all the characters, these are the only two with no storyline/development. We have recurring characters who are better used with less screentime. If the show is going to keep them on contract they need to do something with them.

[Soaplovers]

If I were to cast a Soap Opera veteran as Jan.. I would have picked Krista Allen (of Days and B & B fame) since she did move to the Atlanta area in late 2023... and knows all there is about the Soap opera way of filming.  And I could see her playing Ashley's mom.

[Paul Raven]

I really don't want to see some old P&G actors on the show. To me Lindstrom and McLain have brought nothing special.

The show needs to find new talent, so it has it's own identity,which overall they have.

Timon, Tricia, Ambyr are breakouts. Most of the others are fine .We all know the exceptions.

[Taoboi]

Oooo. I like the current actress, but that's a pretty great choice.

[Chris B]

That would've been a good pick! She was great on B&B and like you said, she's already in Atlanta.

[AbcNbc247]

Wait, what?

So, Martin’s not running for President anymore? Just like that? 

I didn’t expect this storyline to be long term but I would’ve liked to see it play out for a little while longer, or at least until Martin’s secret was revealed. And definitely not fade out with a whimper. Sort of like Naomi’s lawsuit against Bill’s firm; what was the point of it all if it was just gonna wrapped up so easily and (probably) forgotten about? 

Eva is still the breakout character though. I’m looking forward to seeing where she goes from here with everyone, especially if the twist that we’re all suspecting turns out to be true. 

And I did find the gambling storyline interesting finally, now that we know Joey’s endgame. I’d like to see it play out and to see what happens to everybody involved in it. 

As for Derek/Ashley… I wonder how it would’ve played out if they actually had cast Mike Manning as Derek. Yeah, the writing isn’t there but I imagine that Derek would have more of a personality lol and I also imagine that it would’ve made Ron Carlivati’s head explode

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Ben Gavin did look hot though 

[Soapsuds]

I haven't had a chance to view the interview, but I'm glad Mike didn't get the part of Derek.  Derek is a badly written character.

Any Ben Gavin screenshot from yesterday's show?

[AbcNbc247]

Maybe if there had been a good close up or two

[janea4old]

Randy (Doug's friend who works for Joey) -- Joey told Randy weeks ago that Joey's plan was to get Doug into so much debt that Doug would be forced to get Vanessa's real estate holding turned over to Joey, to use for money-laundering.  That's been the plan all along, which the viewers knew.  The only thing new is that Joey finally told Doug this.

I think Joey is written badly.  I also think Jon Lindstrom is doing "Now I am going to act menacing".   But I don't really feel the menace.  It's too overdramatic and it doesn't feel like a real person.  Jon is a fine actor on GH, so I don't know what's happening here -- the entire BTG mobster premise is badly designed/written.  I don't know if Guza pushed for a mobster storyline?  Or did Jon?  (Jon wrote a novel about Hollywood mobsters).
It just doesn't fit.  It feels (to me) like this storyline for Jon was just shoved onto the canvas but it doesn't fit all all.

Monday's scene of Mona coming into the "casino" to check up on where Leslie supposedly lost money in the slot machines -- and Randy explaining to Mona that there are no slot machines, there is nothing but the card room.  I had to laugh because they had characters comment that it's just a card room and not a casino -- the show is now acknowledging that there's nothing there.  If they are going to do this, then have it make sense for Fairmont Crest residents to visit a high-end glamourous casino, and not a random room with one table.

So what money is Joey laundering? A while back, Joey told Vanessa that he knows about her sexual philandering because owns the escort service that she'd been using.

But I don't care...  I'd just prefer that the entire mobster storyline go away. 

Edited 1 hour ago by janea4old