21 hours ago, Paul Raven said:

I never understood the point of Marchetti. Summer left the show for a job there in Italy. OK.

When she returned they had Jack buy the company. Why couldn't Summer have returned and simply stated it was not a good fit, she missed her home , family/friends etc

It was absurd that this internationally successful fashion empire could just be bought by a US cosmetics firm at the drop of a hat.

What was the point when they never did anything with it at all? Summer simply could have gone to work at Jabot.

And wasn't there some nonsense about an offshhoot called Marchetti Home? Was Phyllis attached to that at some point?

This show...

Not that I want to defend Y&R's writers, but it's not as absurd as you'd think and I believe they plucked it from reality (and then bungled it).

The Estee Lauder Companies purchased Tom Ford's brand several years ago and I am willing to bet that's how Jabot came to buy Marchetti.

9 minutes ago, DaytimeFan said:

Not that I want to defend Y&R's writers, but it's not as absurd as you'd think and I believe they plucked it from reality (and then bungled it).

The Estee Lauder Companies purchased Tom Ford's brand several years ago and I am willing to bet that's how Jabot came to buy Marchetti.

Do we believe that Jabot is at the level of Estee Lauder??

I am on board with Jabot deciding to expand but the way it was handled was ridiculous. Jabot just decided and bingo, that was that. Not months of negotiations and decisions about how it would fit into the Jabot portfolio.

And then no follow through.

Josh thinks he's serving business stories by characters sitting around and discussing mergers, takeovers and job switching.

Now we have Audra setting up her own company -Vibrator or something. Well, why not? You don't need staff, office space or even products.

12 hours ago, Paul Raven said:

Do we believe that Jabot is at the level of Estee Lauder??

I am on board with Jabot deciding to expand but the way it was handled was ridiculous. Jabot just decided and bingo, that was that. Not months of negotiations and decisions about how it would fit into the Jabot portfolio.

And then no follow through.

Josh thinks he's serving business stories by characters sitting around and discussing mergers, takeovers and job switching.

Now we have Audra setting up her own company -Vibrator or something. Well, why not? You don't need staff, office space or even products.

All true, and all an enormous problem on this show.

-- The business stories are maddening because none of it makes any sense, none of it has any connection to the real world. As you said, sitting around and discussing mergers, takeovers, and job switching is not a storyline.

-- The deck chairs are constantly rearranged on the Titanic -- that's what this show is.

Summer, Chelsea, Sally, and Chloe have been in design for how long? And we've never seen ANYTHING from them. Carrying around an iPad isn't enough. BOLD is terrible, but at least they show us dresses from Kohls and jewelry from Amazon.

-- I know it's baked into the DNA of the show, but I will never enjoy seeing Jabot and Newman treat each other as if no other companies exist in the entire world. A new magical line of cosmetics is not going to bring down a company like Jabot.

-- This is a writing problem, not a budget problem. An enormous amount of cash is not needed to write compelling business stories and show real products. This is writer LAZINESS.

 

On 5/1/2025 at 4:25 PM, kalbir said:

Please let May have less garbage time.

The Y&R threads have shrunken, whereas I can barely keep up with the Beyond the Gates threads.

I want that as well, but given how much I've been playing catch-up during some personal/family drama, it's been background music with very little to hold my interest. Then I saw a spoiler and rolled my eyes.

 

Very. I guess JG is hitting another of his low points. 

5-2

 

Lord... At least the week started off well...I think. I don't know where to start.

 

Oh, yes, I do. It was mostly background noise to me. There was nothing to the majority of the characters that were on. Meaning, it was mostly characters that I didn't care for or I've gotten accustomed to just FF-ing through. Or just zoning out. Even the possibility that Michael and Lauren might have a story was just meh simply because we have done this dance before and Lauren was coming across like Michael was working for Sonny on GH the mob.

 

The biggest thing I really took away from last week was that the new costumer designer has stepped up her game again. It didn't bother me at all, but I wish there was some drama with this fashion. I liked Claire's outfit, LOVE Nikki's. And I continue to like brighter colors on Nick though I hated those pants. And I could go on about the clothes misses like Billy in that short sleeeve, but I digress.

 

The only things that held my interest...

 

THE SICKENING OF COLE. As soon as he started to cough, I went uh oh. I'm happy to see he might be getting a story. And I guess it shows how much history I have with the character that I care. But still...ugh.

 

ALL THINGS AUDRA. I admit that I was taken aback to see Victor with her at Crimson Lights. When was the last time he was there? I want to say recently with Kyle/Claire, but otherwise I still found the scene taking me aback. But I like her being soft with Kyle who actually came across annoyingly flirty for someone that hates Audra. I actually can't wait for him to eat crow. And since Audra is now being used to drive a wedge between Kyle and Claire, I have to talk about...

 

SUMMER'S EXIT. Mmmm...mixed feelings. It don't seem half as bad as others appear to see it. Yes, if I didn't have the context, it still seem odd that her part in the Kyle/Claire drama was barely touched on. And she interacted with everyone I felt she should interact with. But in the overall context...I still didn't mind the exit. Though it was abrupt. 

 

I did like hearing that Noah and Allie are still together. And don't get me started on the offscreen Mariah drama. 

Josh continues to try and milk Abbott/Newman rivalry.

First it was Billy/Victoria, then Kyle/Summer, then Noah/Allie (that worked out well) and now Kyle/Claire.

Do we have any inkling when Billy Flynn will arrive and who he will play?

I'm sure Cole's illness will mostly play offscreen.

What's in store for Nick and Sharon? Is it time to put them back together? I can't see any other romantic options. Nick has no children on the canvas to play off, as Christian is never seen. Sharon has only Mariah onscreen.

Nick told Victoria that he and Sharon had married in England.  Victoria was shocked.  Then she realized he was kidding.  He confirmed it was a joke and they're platonic.

I don't even know what to say about that.

30 minutes ago, Paul Raven said:

Do we have any inkling when Billy Flynn will arrive and who he will play?

I don't think so, but I wouldn't be surprised if he was Dumas this whole time.

28 minutes ago, Taoboi said:

I don't think so, but I wouldn't be surprised if he was Dumas this whole time.

That's always been my thought. I can't imagine that the show would play up the unseen AD so far in advance without them casting a *star*.

After today's episode, I wonder if he'll somehow be connected with Diane. It was strange that Diane mentioned her very distant family today. I can't recall Diane ever talking about her backstory. Maybe he's her much younger brother? 

It's also possible he's connected to Diane during her time in LA. Sally's already said she crossed paths with him. OC, I think Dumas is Mariah's mistake....

As a side note, it was good to see some mixing it up - Adam with Clare/Kyle and Sharon with Tessa.

Surely we (and Billy Flynn) are not going to be saddled with a character named Aristotle Dumas?

This isn't 1970's Edge of Night.

Edited May 7May 7 by Paul Raven

13 hours ago, edgeofnik said:

That's always been my thought. I can't imagine that the show would play up the unseen AD so far in advance without them casting a *star*.

After today's episode, I wonder if he'll somehow be connected with Diane. It was strange that Diane mentioned her very distant family today. I can't recall Diane ever talking about her backstory.

True. But I have always had mixed feelings about that twist. Since I love the Damian storyline which already had twists and turns. Also I could not wait for a new powerful AND BLACK businessman to mix it up at some point with Victor. It just seem like another twist that was added on for twist sake. And also for a character (whether I love him or not) to hijack a new and refreshing storyline so they can be propped. 

 

Once good thing that I can say about JG is that he loves to keep the Abbotts in rotation. So I could see that happening with Diane. I don't think she has mentioned her backstory, either. I would be intrigued. 

14 hours ago, Paul Raven said:

Do we have any inkling when Billy Flynn will arrive and who he will play?

I think the shocker would be if he's NOT playing Dumas.

14 hours ago, Paul Raven said:

I'm sure Cole's illness will mostly play offscreen.

That's where Josh Griffith plays most of his stories. Now they have Cole "self-isolating" because they don't want to put up that hospital set. Will Cole cough himself to death at the GCAC? What a "storyline."

14 hours ago, Paul Raven said:

What's in store for Nick and Sharon? Is it time to put them back together? I can't see any other romantic options.

I can't believe how much JG is playing with us regarding Nick and Sharon. The teasing has become pathetic, especially for Shick fans who want them back together.

12 hours ago, Paul Raven said:

Surely we (and Billy Flynn) are not going to be saddled with a character named Aristotle Dumas?

This isn't 1970's Edge of Night.

My guess is that he'll reveal his real name once he is exposed.

11 minutes ago, ranger1rg said:

think the shocker would be if he's NOT playing Dumas.

Also how I feel. 

1 hour ago, ranger1rg said:

I think the shocker would be if he's NOT playing Dumas.

That's where Josh Griffith plays most of his stories. Now they have Cole "self-isolating" because they don't want to put up that hospital set. Will Cole cough himself to death at the GCAC? What a "storyline."

I can't believe how much JG is playing with us regarding Nick and Sharon. The teasing has become pathetic, especially for Shick fans who want them back together.

My guess is that he'll reveal his real name once he is exposed.

It really does feel like JG is getting off on torturing Shick fans.

25 minutes ago, Antoyne said:

It really does feel like JG is getting off on torturing Shick fans.

Very. It's VERY annoying, too.