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By Liberty City · Posted
It just does not feel like Y&R anymore, even if a lot of the actors are familiar. It's just... completely lost, and I've never not felt it couldn't be turned around until now and the past few years. Stunt castings (Colleen Zenk) do not remedy the mess. At all. The focus is all wrong; there is no focus. None at all. -
1) Ross and Alan had a history aside from Phillip. In the early '80's Alan torpedoes Ross' campaign for DA in retribution for Trish Lewis leaving him and falling for Ross. Ross then assisted Alex in kicking Alan out of Spaulding. Then in the late '80's, Vanessa and Ross break up over her working at Spaulding with Alan, and she's briefly engaged to Alan. Then Alan shot Phillip accidently, and well....you get (part) of the picture. I do not think Ross really initially held Alan adopting Phillip against him. Jackie had lied to Justin and had the baby in secret. Jackie discovered Justin had had an affair and divorced him. When she came to town, she actually ended up marrying Alan to be close to Phillip. Jackie and Justin eventually remarried and had a daughter named Sam. Jackie dies, and Justin leaves town about a year later. Justin makes a brief return, but it's mostly tied to Sam and then Phillip leaves in '91. Justin leaves town again. Rick and Phillip patch up their friendship, although there are some other rough patches. 2) No, Rick and Fletch generally got along. But I don't recall them interacting much afterward either after the divorce. Meredith had left of her own accord, and Fletch and Rick drifted into other stories. -
By Contessa Donatella · Posted
Has Sonny been a mobster since Guza? Yes, he has. Back then was he portrayed somehow as a good man, righteous? No, he was not. Now, fly through time. Sonny has been credited with taking care of Stone & then Robin. Before you could turn around twice & shout! Sonny donated enough money to build a wing of the hospital in honor of Stone. IMO Mulcahey was on the right track. Maybe that lead to this? We may thank him yet. -
I totally agree and that's why I wish they had played up Mary's connection to Reginald because I think Alexander had more chemistry with Considine. They never explored her backstory and just thought Mary belonged back with her family. I think a better story would be if she rejected Vince and wanted to stay with Reginald. I know we've litigated Reginald's character, but I wish they had played it that way because it would have kept the Loves and the McKinnons connected beyond just Vicky and Jake. -
By slick jones · Posted
GENERAL HOSPITAL From @depboy'S Research Pete Robert Axelrod August 1989 Marge Opelene Bartley August 1989 - 89 Cheryl Stansbury's maid Gary Dean Abston August 1989 Ben Vince Bonato September 1989 Peter Loren Blackwell September 1989 ____ DeSouza Al Dunn September 1989 Mrs. ___ ___ Dawson Marilyn Alex September - October 1989 Phoebe's Mother Mr. ____ Dawson Buddy Farmer September 1989 - October 1989 Phoebe's Father Phoebe Dawson Lycia Naff September - October 1989 Carnival worker that knew Decker. Felicia thought she was Phoebe when she had amnesia. . ..[amnesia, Felicia...]Kristina Wagner 89 ______ Sanderson Les Brown February - March 1989; September 1989 _____ Sargon Tony Xauet August - September 1989 ____ Griffin Terry Shepard September 1989 Marty John Michalski September 1989 Train Conductor Leo Schreiber September 1989 Stranger on the Road Thomas Prosler September 1989 Farmer Stephen Breuthaupt September 1989 Hobo Steve Wells September 1989 Fire Chief George D. Wallace March 1985; September 1989 Hotel Manager Ben Wilson September 1989 Dutch Brad Trumbull September 1989 Secretary Carol Robbins September 1989 Private Investigator Jack Mayhall September 1989 Agent Randall Tucker Jon Huffman September 1989 Andrew Slezak Michael Tulin August 1991 Debbie Sherrie Wills July - August 1991 waitress for Mac hired by Taub to spy on him Eddie Kevin McDermott August 1991 hench, Taub Brian Sean Doherty August 1991 Sister Agatha Fran Ryan August 1989; December 1989 nun, Monica knew about her daughter Tanganeva Thalamus Rasulala September - December 1989; June - July 1991 Fred David Myers October 1989 Bernie Jack Forbes October 1989 Lynx Henshaw Elizabeth Savage October - November 1989 David McAllister's partner-in-crime Kyle Jan Munroe October 1989 ___ Romero Carlos Rivas October 1989 Puerto Rico Hotel Clerk Rene Fernandes October 1989 Puerto Rico Hotel Manager Spartacus Santoni October 1989 Dr. ___ __ Clark Victoria Hearst November - December 1989 Costume Shop Clerk Bob Bancroft November 1989 Mace Len Donato November 1989 Michael Darryl Ferrera November 1989 - February 1990 Mobster Funeral Director Ron French November 1989; April 1993 Dr. ____ Silva William Marquez November 1989 - ???/90 Loan Officer Warner Laughlin November 1989 Molly Kathy Molter August 1989 Nurse Esther_____ Gibson Davey Davison August 1990 Dr. Benson Perry's Nurse Cop Ken Zavayna August 1989 Captain of the Sparrow David Goss August 1989 Television Commentator Wayne Thomas August 1989 A little poking around revealed... Moe Colby Chester 1980 Spider Steve Comisar 1979 Minister Roy Evans James Dale Ryan 1980 Construction Worker Frank Crim 3/28/2025 Delivery Man Frank Crim 11/29/2022 Aaron Thomas Chandler Springer 12/27/2024 wants a picture at the MetroCourt with Kai. Reporter Francisco De Cun 4/16/2025 at Laura's Press Conference about the vote Liam Mike Corbin Never Seen child of Sasha and Brando week of 12/6/21 Parker Ervolina 7/6/22 Sasha's imagination -
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I just saw this old-ish quote from Jane Krakowski, mentioning the circus story as a worst (she said it was a ratings grab) along with the flood. She also mentioned that the reason her character was called TR is because they didn't come up with a name for her - it stood for "The Runaway." https://www.soapcentral.com/soapcentral/news/2017/0629-jane_krakowski_search_for_tomorrow.php What was TR's exit, anyway? She left before the show ended and then returned for the finale, right? Did she ever have love again after Ryder? This is John Mahoney around five minutes, right? I never knew he was on a soap.Please register in order to view this content
I sometimes wondered why Evie was recast. I get why now. I've always had a soft spot for Colleen Dion, but she is very, very green here. -
Mary Carney was the best of the Mary recasts. I think everyone I've seen talk about the show has said this, or almost everyone. The show just gave up too quickly. I agree the story was over. I don't think the show ever developed Mary's career enough to make viewers care about that aspect. I remember reading an interview with Ilene Kristen where she talked about how much support she got from viewers with Jill and Frank (I think it was from around then). I don't know if Roger/Delia was always the plan (wasn't he interested in Mary early on?) but I sometimes think they threw that together to try to make viewers feel Delia had no moral high ground. Frank was an interesting construct as a man who looked like the ideal politician yet behaved...like a typical politician. I think that's why he mostly took off once they cast Daniel Hugh Kelly, who fit the duality.
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Yes and no. If they had wanted to recast Phillip, then no, he didn't need to return. There were already too many recast Spauldings at this point. Regardless of how you feel about Dusay, Raines or Poser, I think the viewers had trouble connecting to them. I think the viewers loved Rick Hearst, and yes, if he had stayed, then you could've built around him. But with a lackluster Michael Dietz soon to appear, Grant Aleksander anchored the family. Reva--pfft. Yes, she could've stayed gone. I'm unsure what the early reception to Josh/Annie was, but I thought RN and CW had good chemistry. Reva had been gone a while at this point, the audience would've accepted anyone who was good to Josh's children.
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Phillip and Rick became BEST friends when they first SORASed the characters. They had been at the same boarding school and came back together to finish high school. That's when they met Mindy and Beth. The four of them were together a lot and called themselved The Four Musketeers. Initially, Phillip/Mindy and Rick/Beth were paired up until Phillip fell in love with Beth. -
By Contessa Donatella · Posted
LaGuardia, R. (1974b). The wonderful world of TV soap operas. ISBN-13 ISBN-13 978-0345272836 It took Harding “Pete” Lemay, however, a skilled playwright who thoroughly believed in the heretofore unexplained psychological potential of the daytime serial, to transform Mrs. Nixon’s love-triangle subplot into a balanced story contrasting realistic human behavior and that “other world of fantasy and striving. He found story devices no longer necessary.” For example, Lemay said, “I didn’t feel it was necessary to keep Rachel a black-and-white character. I didn’t see her as a villainess… I saw her instead as a human being who had always had bad breaks and who defeats herself because she is so used to failure. When she lost Steve this last time, I wanted the audience to feel her pain as I felt it. I wanted them to feel her tears. Mr. Lemay, along with his producer, Paul Rauch, should be given an Award for the Greatest Contribution to Daytime Serials, for completely eliminating melodramatic cliche’s in a daytime drama, and for their invaluable demonstration that, what viewers really want is drama based on psychology rather than on escapist melodrama. Under Lemay and Rauch “Another World”, which had previously used many tried-and-true soap opera devices (although fewer than most other shows), got rid of them, employed inward writing, and became one of the top two or three daytime television shows. About the only happy event in “Another World” was the birth of Ada’s daughter, Nancy, named after Ada’s dear friend on her deathbed Nancy Wickwire. Edit to add: Emphasis on "dear friend". Should be changed to "special friend".
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