2 minutes ago, bossruen said:

Lot of smoothing over retcons in the dialogue today: Valentin explaining to Sonny why Brennan forced him to tamper with his meds

Oh good lord. Anything to save JPS' job. IIRC that was explicitly not what happened onscreen - I believe in Mulcahey's script, Valentin explained his plan to Brennan at the time.

Edited March 19Mar 19 by Vee

Wow you guys are really jumped down Eva LaRue's throat. We got this "quote" second-hand and have no idea what tone she said it in.

Is it that hard to envision an actor saying something akin to "do I really have to?" regarding lines they personally object to knowing full well that they have to say them regardless. It's a very normal thing for actors to do, we've all heard stories of actors apologizing to their scene partners for whatever their characters had to say or do to them.

ANYway Natalie sucks, her story with Sonny is a bunch of nothing. They haven't come close to kissing. Hell, they don't even flirt. They're just in scenes together every3-5 weeks. The show has had over a year to make them a couple and they haven't even come close. Even this drama with Sonny's heart hasn't brought them any closer and it was all for naught because Sonny just told Kristina the truth when she asked.

That they decided to build a family around a character they've put zero effort into is utterly baffling.

12 minutes ago, Vee said:

Oh good lord. Anything to save JPS' job. IIRC that was explicitly not what happened onscreen - I believe in Mulcahey's script, Valentin explained his plan to Brennan at the time.

This happens so often on this show now, especially when it comes to the mob/WSB stuff, that you gotta wonder if they also don't understand the plot. The viewers definitely don't. Personally I couldn't tell you why Valentin is trying to kill Brennan. Don't care either!

Edited March 19Mar 19 by Darn

20 minutes ago, Darn said:

Wow you guys are really jumped down Eva LaRue's throat. We got this "quote" second-hand and have no idea what tone she said it in.

I get it, but I also think it's dumb of her. You came on explicitly to play a homophobic controlling momager but you claim the material floored you? It is what it is.

I can never remember - is the room Chase, Lois, Brook Lynn and Gloria had all the conversations in recently meant to be a library or some area separate from the living room? 

I like this room more for intimate conversations, and it fits the somber moments taking place in this story. I'll always associate the main Q room (which is also redone of course into that greyish bunker) with the more vibrant, mostly gone members of the family anyway. 

Gloria's brief return just reminds me of how little spark Amanda Setton has compared to Rena Sofer and Ellen Travolta, but at least now there's more reason with the baby shame secret. 

Bedroom chastity aside, I do think Setton and Josh Swickard work well enough together as they both have a certain earnestness above all else in their work. Swickard does bring glimpses of crazy from time to time, which might be interesting if or when he ever snaps at just how much he's gone through in the last year (father dead, brother and niece gone, sterile, his pal has a baby with his wife, etc.). I know for many years a soap would have had Brook Lynn fall for Dante or the two of them sleep together after the truth comes out (maybe a few months later, as Gio, who isn't coping well, overdoses and they are grief-stricken), leading Chase to go apeshit or die in some kind of primal screaming-laden car crash. 

I would probably just throw him at Willow (maybe she would lure him to the dark side and use his police ties to that end) instead of killing him off, but I see the possibilities. 

A part of me feels a little sad at my old Qs being replaced by so many Lois/Olivia-adjacent offspring and their stories, but that's how it goes, I guess. At least Tracy does fit in with these dynamics and the show is allowing her a few human moments. It's just all this airing at the same time as we are waiting to hear of Monica's death reminds me of just how complete the changeover is. "It's my house." And...it isn't anymore. It never will be again.

Still, I will take a new Q era over having no Qs beyond Jason and the tatters of his harem.

Edited March 19Mar 19 by DRW50

Chase is eminently disposable to me. I would simply have evil Willow seduce him to screw with the Qs, then expose it and off he goes.

1 hour ago, bossruen said:

I prefer Chris McKenna’s Brennan to Mesure’s at this point. He has chemistry with LW, which most actors don’t.

Lot of smoothing over retcons in the dialogue today: Valentin explaining to Sonny why Brennan forced him to tamper with his meds, Brook Lynn explaining to Chase why her previous fling with Dante didn’t come up when she tried to break up him and Lulu later on.

Some nice work from Swickard, too.

I adored CMesure as Jack Brennan so it's not really possible for me to get to that point "more" with Chris McKenna but it's also not necessary as to me McKenna is a much more than just competent recast. He's an excellent recast, IMO, anyway. I personally believe chem is totally subjective. That said, I find LW's Carly to have it in spades with about 85% of the potential population. It worked with Mesure but it also is working with McKenna. 

On to babies, I loved the parallels between Sasha & Jason and Brook Lynn &  Chase. Amanda Setton continues to wow me & I liked getting more reaction from Chase. Not a surprise that telling him about Dante would get a predictable rise out of him.

Sasha is interesting watching her reconsider Michael's involvement. Also her POV about Willow is refreshing. 

Edited March 19Mar 19 by Contessa Donatella

1 hour ago, bossruen said:

I prefer Chris McKenna’s Brennan to Mesure’s at this point. He has chemistry with LW, which most actors don’t.

 

I don't see any chemistry between the two. They are one of my least favorite forced couple.

5 hours ago, AbcNbc247 said:

Well, hello Marco 😍

 

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Natalia and Sidwell's son though

And Lucas/Van was looking very cute and adorable today.

😂😂😂😂😂

Why did Lucas look to see if he was naked? Wouldn't he know?😂😂😂

37 minutes ago, Vee said:

Chase is eminently disposable to me. I would simply have evil Willow seduce him to screw with the Qs, then expose it and off he goes.

On a show where so many I don't want to see hang around and hang around, I don't mind having someone I find easy on the eye and a likeable enough support character, but there's definitely a strong case for him to go. 

3 hours ago, Soapsuds said:

 

😂😂😂😂😂

OK 😉

I’ll stick with that cute blonde from Atlanta 😉😂😂😂

5 hours ago, DRW50 said:

That would have made sense, although didn't she drug him, so it would have been rape (if GH now considers women assaulting men to be rape).

Yeah, she did.

Maybe that’s why they chose not to go there. 

5 hours ago, AbcNbc247 said:

OK 😉

I’ll stick with that cute blonde from Atlanta 😉😂😂😂

 

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You know even if you took out the whole rape/drugging aspect of the Brook/Dante thing in 2010 it would not make more sense to me than a teenage pregnancy.  Then we'd have to deal with Dante consensually cheating on Lulu and it would make the characters like 50 not to mention that would have meant Carly and Brook Lynn's plan succeeded so there would be no reason to keep the baby a secret.  Plus, AL's BLQ was still onscreen for almost a year after that.  She was stuck in that awful tale with TC's Nik where she was paid to be his escort or companion if you all recall that.  So even if this teenage pregnancy story is dumb it's at least in the realm of possibility.

Also count me in for a Willow/Chase redux.  I always thought it was both characters best pairing.  That obviously isn't saying much but I did think KM and JS had nice chemistry.

3 minutes ago, carolineg said:

 

Also count me in for a Willow/Chase redux.  I always thought it was both characters best pairing.  That obviously isn't saying much but I did think KM and JS had nice chemistry.

So they were actually paired? I wasn't watching when it happened. I just thought it was some made up [!@#$%^&*] from the writers.😂

7 minutes ago, Soapsuds said:

So they were actually paired? I wasn't watching when it happened. I just thought it was some made up [!@#$%^&*] from the writers.😂

Yeah.  When Willow first came on the show and she was a teacher.  They were together through the whole Dawn of the Dead nonsense.  Eventually, they break up so Michael and Willow can get married to get custody of Wiley (it's a whole long Sasha/Michael/Chase/Willow story that is just zzzzzzzzz).   Chase and Willow eventually get back together, but she's in love with Michael and a cheating whore from the start so they lie to Chase because he is dying.  Then Chase/Willow get married because he is still dying, but she continues to see Michael behind his back.  Chase doesn't die obviously, finds out the truth, and then Michael/Willow get together.   That was honestly the most concise way I could explain it and it still sounds complicated.  Honestly, it was very boring on screen. 

9 minutes ago, carolineg said:

Yeah.  When Willow first came on the show and she was a teacher.  They were together through the whole Dawn of the Dead nonsense.  Eventually, they break up so Michael and Willow can get married to get custody of Wiley (it's a whole long Sasha/Michael/Chase/Willow story that is just zzzzzzzzz).   Chase and Willow eventually get back together, but she's in love with Michael and a cheating whore from the start so they lie to Chase because he is dying.  Then Chase/Willow get married because he is still dying, but she continues to see Michael behind his back.  Chase doesn't die obviously, finds out the truth, and then Michael/Willow get together.   That was honestly the most concise way I could explain it and it still sounds complicated.  Honestly, it was very boring on screen. 

I've been nodding as you go after this actually happened backstory & talking to the computer in helpful ways but that's not why I'm posting. 

For what seems like ages but is really probably only a month. Do you recall one GH day when Willow & Chase talked & she had what I call her Intro Level initial self-awareness of her current self & I was so excited & on the edge of my seat because I just knew Chase was about to praise her for having this insight into Drillow for the first time and, and, and,  Dammitohellandback instead Chase said, "You are a good person & everyone knows it." KLUNK. Grumble. Grouse. Swear words. 

Yet despite Chase seemingly having no brain cells to rub together, from that moment on, I have been rooting for Chillow to be up next & I tend to think that we will get them. Not sure how they will blow up ChaLynn but, I guess we'll see. 

 

I am disappointed that Sonny didn’t shoot Val dead. I have no use for Val.