Of course, why recast a vital younger character who is central to a core family when you can hold the role for somnambulant Chad when he's ready to return for a buck fifty? Idiotic.

Might as well ship Willow, their kids, Sasha and Drew off too then because no Michael pretty much kills their storyline.

The chokehold the Facebook Millow loving fanbase seems to have on the show will never make sense to me

1 minute ago, detroitpiston said:

Might as well ship Willow, their kids, Sasha and Drew off too then because no Michael pretty much kills their storyline.

The chokehold the Facebook Millow loving fanbase seems to have on the show will never make sense to me

There is supposedly story for Sasha, Robert & Holly in the new year

2 minutes ago, detroitpiston said:

Might as well ship Willow, their kids, Sasha and Drew off too then because no Michael pretty much kills their storyline.

The chokehold the Facebook Millow loving fanbase seems to have on the show will never make sense to me

Drew & Tree can go to wherever he needs to be as a Senator. Saescher & Michael can go somewhere else.

3 minutes ago, John said:

There is supposedly story for Sasha, Robert & Holly in the new year

Another thrilling 2 week Sidwell adventure no doubt 🥱 let me chill on hating before the show has the chance to prove me right

Will Michael die, and leave behind Sasha pregnant with a Quartermaine baby?

20 minutes ago, detroitpiston said:

Might as well ship Willow, their kids, Sasha and Drew off too then because no Michael pretty much kills their storyline.

The chokehold the Facebook Millow loving fanbase seems to have on the show will never make sense to me

There could be story for Nina and Willow with Drew. I would recreate the story with Kimberly/Michael/Rae on Ryan's Hope. And if it ends with Willow gunning Drew down, no big loss.

I do wonder what they plan with Sasha, although I still assume she will be back with Cody at some point.

2 hours ago, DRW50 said:

I'd imagine it is low. Even if they didn't seem like vets to us, Easton and Howarth had also been at the show for a decade, and they were fired. Kelly was fired. The backstage transition with Mulcahey in and out was a mess. And they've seen a number of co-stars pass away in the last few years. Add in that there's a good chance the show is in its end stages and some may feel they want to leave on their own terms while they can.

It has that feel right now that the last days of JFP were giving. ABC cancelled AMC and OLTL, and Frank was moved over with no guarantee that the show would last. It looked bleak. From all accounts, the show barely survived. I feel a little of that same dread for the show. Not as acute, but GH is hardly stable.

And as you point out, several people with 10 years or more service have been let go in the last year. We know they were all devastated by several losses. I know behind the scenes Nneka Garland was a real blow to the show.

2 minutes ago, titan1978 said:

It has that feel right now that the last days of JFP were giving. ABC cancelled AMC and OLTL, and Frank was moved over with no guarantee that the show would last. It looked bleak. From all accounts, the show barely survived. I feel a little of that same dread for the show. Not as acute, but GH is hardly stable.

And as you point out, several people with 10 years or more service have been let go in the last year. We know they were all devastated by several losses. I know behind the scenes Nneka Garland was a real blow to the show.

Thank you. I'd forgotten about Garland. I can imagine that was devastating as they needed that type of support in so much upheaval.

We've gotten so used to the last four soaps hanging on by their fingernails that it can be easy to forget just how close to going they still are, especially GH and DAYS. I do see the similarity between where the show is now and was 11-12-13 years ago...the main difference is now no one is going to ride to the rescue. 

Hopefully something can turn around. And hopefully they won't have a departure that is going to really hurt the show. 

2 hours ago, John said:

There is supposedly story for Sasha, Robert & Holly in the new year

No one wants it.

2 hours ago, DRW50 said:

There could be story for Nina and Willow with Drew. I would recreate the story with Kimberly/Michael/Rae on Ryan's Hope. And if it ends with Willow gunning Drew down, no big loss.

I also think that's the smart play, though I think it's too late for the Blake/Ross/Holly (probably inverted) triangle Mulcahey was going to do. I think Who Killed Drew needs to end in Willow doing it (and probably framing Nina).

I see no reason to keep Sasha, Willow or their kids around. The Sasha Scorpio story has been insanely unpopular and she is a deeply boring character.

7 minutes ago, Vee said:

No one wants it.

I also think that's the smart play, though I think it's too late for the Blake/Ross/Holly (probably inverted) triangle Mulcahey was going to do. I think Who Killed Drew needs to end in Willow doing it (and probably framing Nina).

I see no reason to keep Sasha, Willow or their kids around. The Sasha Scorpio story has been insanely unpopular and she is a deeply boring character.

Blake/Ross/Holly would have made sense, even if Willow and Nina just don't have that level of depth and Cameron is no Jerry Ver Dorn. 

(I know you weren't comparing them, sorry)

I do think Sasha is a likeable character, which is more than I can say for a number of others in her age range, but it does feel like she, Willow and Brooklyn all serve the same narcoleptic role.

9 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

Blake/Ross/Holly would have made sense, even if Willow and Nina just don't have that level of depth and Cameron is no Jerry Ver Dorn. 

Oh, I definitely think that triangle was the model for this story under Mulcahey, except I think here the endgame was Drew and Nina which I was very into. And I think it suited Cameron and Watros well. But now given the messy hash they've made of it since the changeover I'd just do Who Killed Drew.

I have always just found Sasha insanely boring, but that's me.

11 minutes ago, Vee said:

Oh, I definitely think that triangle was the model for this story under Mulcahey, except I think here the endgame was Drew and Nina which I was very into. And I think it suited Cameron and Watros well. But now given the messy hash they've made of it since the changeover I'd just do Who Killed Drew.

I have always just found Sasha insanely boring, but that's me.

I agree she's dull - she has a little more of the soap inner life compared to Willow or Brooklyn, I think, but I agree. 

Cynthia was doing such good work in the brief time she was allowed. A shame that's never going to happen again.

 

Wallow is a victim of the hospital killer that overdosed Sam on Digitalis.

Killing off Wallow and sending Michael to Sonny's island for a few months has been an idea of mine since he married her. She's a dud. Without her, Nina is no longer needed and Drew can go to D. C. to govern. None of these are essential characters to story.

Michael returns with a new face and a new lease on life (and prefereably not a pasty, pale dad- bod, just sayin'). Possibly with a woman (or a dude?) that didn't outlive their shelf life in 2019.

8 hours ago, detroitpiston said:

Chad had an interview with Steve Burton and Bradford Anderson a few months back and you could just tell he didn’t care to be on the show anymore and his performances have shown that as well. He talked about preferring comedy and they were trying to encourage him to take an acting class or do improv just to reignite the passion but he seemed more than over it. I still to this day liked Drew Garret better in the role and think it was a mistake he got replaced.

Robert Adamson stunk it up on Y&R the same way Duell has at GH so I’d prefer a new actor with some gravitas. Michael is a legacy character that should be leading man status.

I couldn’t stand RA on Y&R. I remember when they tried to give him some fired up material once and he was embarrassingly bad.

8 hours ago, dragonflies said:

🤔

I’d take it.

6 hours ago, detroitpiston said:

He was too old for the role and Nick and Sharon’s stalled development certainly didn’t help, but I also remember JFP trying to create multiple Noah centered stories and pairings and his average presence kept getting them hijacked by better actors (Noah/Tessa/Mariah) or pushed to the backburner. He was on a lot when they brought on Sofia Pernas but she ended up carrying most of the effort and when she bolted for primetime they dropped him like a hot potato.

It’d be such a waste to go from one mid grade actor to another

Agreed.