GH: Fan Fave Fired. Actress Blindsided

[Liberty City]

The time to hire Lindsay Korman-Hartley full-time was in 2020 when she originally first subbed. Now? The character of Sam can exit.

[John]

That is the thing

im sure KM had a contract renewal since 2020 why not replace if FV hated KM then?

[Taoboi]

Perhaps she will be presumed dead...only to come back with Lindsay somewhere down the road. 

[Liberty City]

 

 

[dragonflies]

Mansi still looks so out of place, and this from someone who never liked LA as Kristina

[DRW50]

No idea if it's accurate but I think some here have said Lindsey does not want to play the role full time.

I do agree there's so much to play with Sam/Dante/Lulu. I wonder if Frank doesn't really care about any of the characters and is only bringing Lulu back due to being forced.

[Taoboi]

I always believe that. Sadly. Lindsey definitely seems to enjoy being behind the camera more than in front of it these days. Which is why I would do presumed death so if she was to change her mind...it would be more possible.

 

A triangle of Sam/Dante/Lulu could last until at least February Sweeps if written well. 

[Vee]

February sweeps is not that far away, lol.

I wouldn't see any point in a triangle with Sam, Dante and Lulu without a strong fourth side for Sam, and I already considered her a spent character (unlike Dante or Lulu). Sam and Dante was always a C-pairing to park the characters somewhere.

[Taoboi]

Not at all. Long enough to play all the beats. Not so long that a triangle that would follow the beats of Lulu waking up would overstay its welcome.

[j swift]

I've been thinking a lot about the fan responses to paycuts in general.  I know it is ancillary to this case.  The kneejerk fan response has always been that actors should take a paycut for the good of the production, and their fellow performers. 

Personally, if a show asked me to take a paycut, I would think the show was saying that my presence no longer attracted an audience to justify my pay.  Therefore, I would leave rather than take a cut.  Because not only would I be working for less pay, but the production is also saying that they won't invest creatively in my character because I don't raise ratings.

However, an issue that fans often overlook is that if I say that I won't take a paycut, there is a high likelihood that my agent and manager will drop me.  Agents want their clients to collect a salary, and if you show that you are willing to quit, and make them less money, they will get rid of you as a client.  So, then you're left as an aging actress without representation trying to get another job.

Which means that it is not as clear-cut as often discussed. 

 

Edited October 8, 2024 by j swift

[John]

What is gonna happen with Scout & Danny?

Stay With Dante?

Qs or Alexis?

I do not see Jason or Drew steppin up

[Paul Raven]

I don't know that many actors would have your principles. The alternative to a pay cut is unemployment = no $$$

And there is not a lot out there for ex soapers. They might land some guest spots in a cable show etc but no way is their income going to be commensurate.

And like the rest of us they have bills to pay and other financial commitments.

Big names have taken pay cuts over the years.

[titan1978]

I am going to drag Kim Zimmer into the pay cut discussion. It was a different time back then when she refused. But there is something to be said for watching a show be run into the ground by tptb, and deciding I am willing to stand my ground in a legally negotiated contract instead of taking a paycut because of their poor decisions.

And if I did agree to a pay cut as a veteran who earned my money through loyalty and popularity, because again, this is a business, I would also negotiate for something I want. I am agreeing to lose income. Like More time off. Or doing away with my 13 week cycles for the remainder of my contract or at least two years, whichever comes first. I can still be fired.  But you have to pay me the full remainder. So tptb better come up with another budget solution if they continue to make decisions that erode the ratings than cutting talent.

Edited October 11, 2024 by titan1978

[j swift]

Agreed, but my point was that either decision about the paycut may result in the loss of representation by agents and managers (e.g., Ari Zucker), and then you have even fewer options.

The discourse on this topic tends to get caught up in discussions about talent and creativity, versus the business realities of being an actor.  As if any aging actress has the ability to make these types of choices on their own, without respecting the needs of those on their management team that depend on them to make a consistent salary.

Edited October 11, 2024 by j swift

[Liberty City]

We could also bring Martha Byrne into the discussion with her concession and ultimate axing from As the World Turns. She agreed to the pay cut, as she knew the financial placements World Turns was in and asked for her episode guarantee to remain; as a result, Christopher Goutman put a casting notice out the same day to replace her.

Per her quote to Michael Logan, 2008:

❝ This was the situation: Last year, I was asked to take a tremendous pay cut, and I did so willingly because I love ATWT and understood the financial situation the show was facing. I was willing to do anything to keep the show going, including giving up money, so we worked out a one-year contract. One year later, we go into this new contract negotiation and I had only one request. I thought it was only fair - and I wanted it on paper - that I would work the same amount of days this year that I did last year. I considered it a gesture of good faith on their part. I asked for nothing else. Zero. But I was told that this could not be put into my contract and, that same day, the show sent out a breakdown notice to recast my role ❞