2 minutes ago, carolineg said:

GH and Days are very guilty of this.  There isn't a dynamic second generation.  There is Sonny, Carly, Jason, et all.  And Michael to lead when that group retires?  That sounds awful.  Mansi could probably lead the next generation, but I am mostly at a loss about everyone else.  Willow? Brook Lynn?  Chase?  😂

At least DAYS makes an attempt before they all quit or Ron blinks and decides to start over again. There have been many attempts at a younger and 30 age set of characters on DAYS. Frank has just given up on GH. All those younger characters featured when Jason returned were just quietly ignored. On DAYS they would have been swapping beds weekly.

2 minutes ago, titan1978 said:

At least DAYS makes an attempt before they all quit or Ron blinks and decides to start over again. There have been many attempts at a younger and 30 age set of characters on DAYS. Frank has just given up on GH. All those younger characters featured when Jason returned were just quietly ignored. On DAYS they would have been swapping beds weekly.

True.  It's weird because in the Riche era GH excelled at bringing in younger characters to mix with "older" ones.   And then Guza/JFP just killed half of them off 😂

Spoiler

At least bringing Lucky and possibly Lulu back is an attempt at something.

 

8.14.2024

Creators: Frank & Doris Hursley

EP: Frank Valentini

CO-HW: Chris Van Etten & Elizabeth Korte 

Associate HW:  Cathy LePard  

BDW: No One Listed

SW: Stacey Pulwer

DIR: Denise Van Cleave

2 hours ago, titan1978 said:

We have plenty of room on the canvas for more Violet and those kids, and another player in the over 50 age range, but not really the in between? Make it make sense to me please. And I am not calling out for a return of only 20-something’s onscreen. But this is equally unbalanced.

ICAM. I think the early 00s were the last time soaps invested in young people. I guess the cancellations scared them and now they are too scared to turn beloved 80s and 90s characters into "old people" or even let them go. There is no room for young people because the veterans play their stories. 
Of course I wouldn't want soaps to go crazy and fire everyone who is getting older like they did in the 80s, but they should at least give them suitable material. 

Another problem is casting. The young actors who get cast are not always very charismatic. I think TPTB do it on purpose because the stars are the veterans.

Edited August 14, 20241 yr by Sapounopera

7 hours ago, Sapounopera said:

BTW what are they trying to do with Ava? Every character who accuses her of killing that baby seems crazy and/or evil. They do remember that we show Kristina's fall, right? It was not even shown in a did she/didn't she way. 

Lazy writing and propping. 

 

6 hours ago, DRW50 said:

I can only imagine various writers have extremely different views of Ava and it bleeds onto the screen. I do wonder if Mulcahey was going to finally write her out (with a big long arc), plans that were dropped, but now we're back in a muddle with the character.

I felt PM was going to, but we still would have had Ava around for a while. And I trusted he could find the right wiggle room to keep her on the canvas as well. Because the Ava on screen during his run was smart, cunning, and making moves on AND off screen.

4 hours ago, Liberty City said:

The problem is Natalia stuck around instead of coming and going. Come in, cause some disruption and then go out. She came in, stuck around and the lasting effects were not... big enough. Had she come in, seen Allison & Kristina, put the thoughts in Allison's head, and then this breakup happened...? That would have been some greater pull, in terms of character story, than having to endure what we've endured.

Amen.

 

2 hours ago, detroitpiston said:

Her being surprised and how quickly this exit happened with the new regime takeover certainly gives me some thoughts lol.

Oh, do speak your thoughts.

 

 

I did not enjoy Jacqueline Grace Lopez as Blaze, but I am struck that they dumped her this quickly and with such a ho-hum exit lacking emotion.

Getting rid of the gay character and keeping the homophobe? Wow...that's special. And now Natalia gets Sonny -- a lowlife mobster -- to buy her way into Deception? I thought that company worried about public relations. Oh, that was covered by "I'll be a silent partner." GMAFB.

I hate Natalia more today than I did yesterday. Good job, GH.

BTW, was anyone else struck that JGL didn't mention Kate Mansi in her long goodbye message? It's pretty standard to mention someone you shared that much screen time with, so it seems intentional not to mention her.

After all, she had time to be "grateful to Frank" while twice making it clear she was blindsided by being cut.

24 minutes ago, ranger1rg said:

After all, she had time to be "grateful to Frank" while twice making it clear she was blindsided by being cut.

They all gotta bend the knee and hope Frank will call them back. I do think it's strange if she didn't mention Mansi.

Oh...interesting. 

2 hours ago, Taoboi said:

I felt PM was going to, but we still would have had Ava around for a while. And I trusted he could find the right wiggle room to keep her on the canvas as well. Because the Ava on screen during his run was smart, cunning, and making moves on AND off screen.

Not me, I don't think Patrick was going to terminate Ava. The whole world seems to think there's a target on her back & they've been thinking that for months now. I just don't see her in the crosshairs. This, Kristina getting hurt, losing the baby & Ava being suspiciously close to the situation, yes, that I've thought about.  

 

I am a completely biased human, but on days like this it just seems like it would have been easier if Frank just felt like talking to Vanessa Marcil?  Because Brenda would have actually fit into Deception?  Instead the show just a gets a similar famous name with a similar look and style and makes her a bigot to insert her into stories she doesn't belong?  

I obviously would never want Brenda as Blaze's mom or a bigot (which Vanessa would never play due to obvious reasons), but it just seems like the simplest solution to fill the space Natalia gets.  I'll never stop pushing the agenda😂

2 minutes ago, carolineg said:

I am a completely biased human, but on days like this it just seems like it would have been easier if Frank just felt like talking to Vanessa Marcil?  Because Brenda would have actually fit into Deception?  Instead the show just a gets a similar famous name with a similar look and style and makes her a bigot to insert her into stories she doesn't belong?  

All true. Yet he prefers his own boring stable.

7 hours ago, carolineg said:

Well, it would have to be Natalia's fault or issue for it to be a problem to the GH team.  It's obviously Ava's fault Natalia is awful lol.

Hmm, okay for years everything was either Nina's fault or Carly's fault. Ava is at least ... new?!!! 

5 minutes ago, Contessa Donatella said:

I don't think Patrick was going to terminate Ava.

Thus why I mentioned wiggle room.  

5 minutes ago, Vee said:

All true. Yet he prefers his own boring stable.

🤮.  It's very annoying.   It's not even as if ELR is boring or bad in general.  It's just some stories almost write themselves and positioning her this way is just going to fail.  I predict 6 months before ELR is dumped.

4 minutes ago, Contessa Donatella said:

Hmm, okay for years everything was either Nina's fault or Carly's fault. Ava is at least ... new?!!! 

Ava's been the scapegoat on and off for years depending on the writing team

Edited August 14, 20241 yr by carolineg

6 minutes ago, carolineg said:

gets a similar famous name with a similar look and style

Now that you mention it...lol. 

 

7 minutes ago, carolineg said:

I'll never stop pushing the agenda😂

NEVER EVER!!!