2 hours ago, detroitpiston said:

Today’s episode was outstanding, I might even say the most entertaining one since I started watching again. So much soapy conflict and confrontation. One scene ended and shifted to another just as interesting.

I thought it was a very unusual day especially for a Wednesday. It was not Wednesday like, at all. I am so concerned about Molly. She is so very terribly alone. 

Spoiler

 I'm so glad Ric will be here tomorrow. He will have no compunction about being 100% on Molly's side & she needs that from someone right now. Rather badly IMO. 

2 hours ago, detroitpiston said:

First of all I’m glad Trina finally stood up to Josslyn when it comes to Ava. I hated the way the previous regime had her show such little loyalty. Both Joss and Trina got to make extremely valid points and I loved Ava walking right in the middle of it. Joss telling Ava if she had been the one in the hotel suite instead of Kristina she wouldn’t be the one flying out the window was more of the obnoxious bitchiness I expect from Carly’s daughter. Then Trina making Ava tell her the truth of what happened was good to see.

Triss today & their angst was truly outstanding! Joss was completely right about every single thing she said. They had one of their classic arguments. They have them a couple of times a year. They're very good at it! They say what they are thinking & feeling but they are careful not to use words that would hurt, or sting. The ALWAYS leave it open for them to make up. Trina has  done this before. She is good at walking very fine lines. Today with Ava. In the past with Esme. She also is quick to say that she is not stupid that she KNOWS Ava has done terrible things. I think we're watching Trina have a possible change of mind about her dear friend Ava. But, Trina has integrity. She will put Ava on some sort of restriction first before she would ever speak against her, behind her back. That's just Trina.

2 hours ago, detroitpiston said:

Kristina continues to piss me the hell off being mad about Molly and TJ naming their baby.

Hmm? To me it was only predictable. 

2 hours ago, detroitpiston said:

I still loved how Molly and Alexis protected her from Jagger’s raggedy self trying to bring her in for questioning.

I am constantly amazed at how they have destroyed the character of Jagger Cates!

2 hours ago, detroitpiston said:

Molly finding the paperwork of Kristina trying to keep custody of the baby was a great gag and once again Kristin V is just wonderful at playing soapy realization moments like that.

Molly saw the affidavit?! Whoa, I did not see that. 

2 hours ago, detroitpiston said:

Then the Sonny and Ava confrontation at the end, whew. The way he tried to corner her but she never coward and then him presenting her with the option to be spared was chefs kiss. Just a good soapy episode. I was sad to see Deception story in the previews.

His line, just amazing dialog! 

"You deserve to die. My face should be the last thing you see. But I'm not here to take your life. I'm here to save it.": - Sonny to Ava, GH 8-21-24

My rose today was "Triss" & them being such good friends & that they say anything & everything to each other. 

My thorn was John Jagger Gingleheimer Schmidt who has gone so completely overboard that there's no redemption in sight! 

20 minutes ago, ranger1rg said:

LOL I know what you mean. But you do get my point, don't you? If you don't, that's fine. I'm not going to spend any more time or space on the damn credits.

Yes, of course. 

Ehhh… today was good but the blatantly biased writing was on full display in a lot of scenes and it gets really annoying sometimes. #PoorJagger

Btw, somebody really needed to punch Joss in her trashy whore face today. And yeah, Ava’s been a better friend to Trina than she ever was.

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2 minutes ago, AbcNbc247 said:

Ehhh… today was good but the blatantly biased writing was on full display in a lot of scenes and it gets really annoying sometimes. #PoorJagger

Btw, somebody really needed to punch Joss in her trashy whore face today. And yeah, Ava’s been a better friend to Trina than she ever was.

Ha! I will never agree with #PoorJagger unless we are talking about 1994's Jagger who was ruined by AH lol.

I did laugh when Joss was threatening Ava like she would have thrown her out the window.  Girl, Ava would have easily snapped you stupid neck.  

I thought today's show was really good.  Kristina is being so selfish and I love Molly knows the truth now.  I thought Tajh Bellow was very good today and I know he gets a lot of hate here.  

4 hours ago, carolineg said:

@Antoyne said they hadn't caught up with the show yet and I assume @Liberty City was just being polite and leaving it as a spoiler tag so they could choose to read it or not. 🤷‍♀️

Thank you. 😊 

Just now, carolineg said:

Ha! I will never agree with #PoorJagger unless we are talking about 1994's Jagger who was ruined by AH lol.

For me, it’s the writing.

The complete 180 that they did with his storyline/character is kinda sad lol 

4 minutes ago, AbcNbc247 said:

For me, it’s the writing.

The complete 180 that they did with his storyline/character is kinda sad lol 

Oh for sure.  I will mostly think of ASJ's Jagger who was super hot, kinda dopey, but mostly a decent guy.  There was no reason to bring Jagger back in the first place.  

Jagger's motivations were all off from the start.  Hate Sonny because he's a criminal.  Bringing Karen and Stone into this was mostly a moot point.  Sonny was very good to Stone.  He was awful to Karen, but Karen forgave Sonny and moved on with her life.  Jagger cheating on her was probably a lot more hurtful lol.   It's weird to take an FBI agent with real issues about Sonny and have Jagger make it about petty, personal things-and then make him crooked.

@detroitpiston  I agree! Today’s episode was excellent - one of the best of the year.  There was tension everywhere.  From Joss/Trina, Jason/Anna/Sonny, Jason/Anna, Kristina/Molly, Davis Girls/Jagger, Sonny/Ava.   Then we had those emotional scenes with The Ashfords. I had tears in my eyes when  was TJ telling them the name of his daughter and when Stella had to leave and started to bawl in the hallway.  And we had two good cliffhangers with Molly finding the custody papers and Sonny telling that he will save her life instead of killing her.   Loving the show right now.  It’s so good.  

https://x.com/MouthySoapFan93/status/1826105535264887053/photo/1

Can anyone tell or does anyone know which day this was? 

36 minutes ago, Toups said:

@detroitpiston  

I agree! Today’s episode was excellent - one of the best of the year.  There was tension everywhere.  From Joss/Trina, Jason/Anna/Sonny, Jason/Anna, Kristina/Molly, Davis Girls/Jagger, Sonny/Ava.   Then we had those emotional scenes with The Ashfords. I had tears in my eyes when  was TJ telling them the name of his daughter and when Stella had to leave and started to bawl in the hallway.  And we had two good cliffhangers with Molly finding the custody papers and Sonny telling that he will save her life instead of killing her.   Loving the show right now.  It’s so good.  

I agree. The show has been riveting since CVE has been  back as co- head writer. Coincidence?

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1 hour ago, carolineg said:

I thought Tajh Bellow was very good today and I know he gets a lot of hate here.  

He was excellent. That's why I spoke up for him recently when I saw those negative posts about him here. Those comments made no sense to me.

 

1 hour ago, AbcNbc247 said:

The complete 180 that they did with his storyline/character is kinda sad lol 

Yeah, the show clearly has given up on the Jagger character and did that 180 on Jagger's way out the door.

 

1 hour ago, carolineg said:

Jagger's motivations were all off from the start.  Hate Sonny because he's a criminal.  Bringing Karen and Stone into this was mostly a moot point.  Sonny was very good to Stone.  He was awful to Karen, but Karen forgave Sonny and moved on with her life.  Jagger cheating on her was probably a lot more hurtful lol.   It's weird to take an FBI agent with real issues about Sonny and have Jagger make it about petty, personal things-and then make him crooked.

As many of us complained about, he was Jagger in name only with a cheat sheet of references to placate the older viewers and give him insta-ties with the current show. Didn’t they do this with Paul Hornsby too a few years ago? They were brought on to be trashed if need be.

Molly is killing it and is now officially my favorite Davis kid. Mansi is not playing any sympathetic quality to Kristina’s current story. Do they want the audience to truly hate this character? I think we are supposed to at least sympathize with her a little bit. And instead it’s hard to argue that her impulsive actions did lead to the consequences everyone is facing right now. Ava certainly has a part to play in that too, as does Sonny and even Dex. All these choices lead Kristina to that window.

Just now, titan1978 said:

Molly is killing it and is now officially my favorite Davis kid. Mansi is not playing any sympathetic quality to Kristina’s current story. Do they want the audience to truly hate this character? I think we are supposed to at least sympathize with her a little bit. And instead it’s hard to argue that her impulsive actions did lead to the consequences everyone is facing right now. Ava certainly has a part to play in that too, as does Sonny and even Dex. All these choices lead Kristina to that window.

Nicely said. I've said all along that there is more than enough blame to go around. Very soapy, also layered, complex. 

I think with FV/EK/CVE making the decisions Frank wants made, they're going to just keep pushing Kristina further & further out on the edge & may go as far as Krazy Krissy. I also suspect that they expect a certain amount of sympathy because they're trashing her whole life. 

37 minutes ago, titan1978 said:

As many of us complained about, he was Jagger in name only with a cheat sheet of references to placate the older viewers and give him insta-ties with the current show. Didn’t they do this with Paul Hornsby too a few years ago? They were brought on to be trashed if need be.

It's such a weird idea because old viewers are thinking this is nothing like the Jagger we knew.  And new viewers are like this guy is awful.  Not excusing the Paul story because that was wild too, but Jagger's ties to the canvas were flimsy at best.  Besides Sonny, he really only knew pre-brain damaged Jason and Scott.  His other ties were more ties to ties of previous characters if that makes sense lol. 

1 hour ago, titan1978 said:

Molly is killing it and is now officially my favorite Davis kid. Mansi is not playing any sympathetic quality to Kristina’s current story. Do they want the audience to truly hate this character? I think we are supposed to at least sympathize with her a little bit. And instead it’s hard to argue that her impulsive actions did lead to the consequences everyone is facing right now. Ava certainly has a part to play in that too, as does Sonny and even Dex. All these choices lead Kristina to that window.

I do wonder if the show is assuming viewers will sympathize with Kristina either because she's Kristina or because Kate Mansi was popular at DAYS. They have created a situation where a lot of fans hate her. 

It's certainly one of the best things to happen to Molly (although she will likely go under the bus soon enough), and they seem to be writing to the strengths of the new actress. 

The bit where she found the papers while Alexis was swearing protection to Kristina was a great soap moment. Nice to know they can do them.

5 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

I do wonder if the show is assuming viewers will sympathize with Kristina either because she's Kristina or because Kate Mansi was popular at DAYS. They have created a situation where a lot of fans hate her. 

It's certainly one of the best things to happen to Molly (although she will likely go under the bus soon enough), and they seem to be writing to the strengths of the new actress. 

The bit where she found the papers while Alexis was swearing protection to Kristina was a great soap moment. Nice to know they can do them.

I assume the show is leaning into the narrative that Kristina is a flighty mess.  I don't think we are supposed to sympathize with her in this moment.  I think at some point she's going to realize she is being ridiculous and it will inspire some actual change within her.  

I also think the show knows Mansi can handle the material (even though she's not great with online hate) and KV needs a little boost as Molly to get the audience in her favor.  Just my opinion of course.