19 hours ago, John said:

I dont see anyone but possibly Sonny who's horny possibly giving Natalia a pass. Everyone else showed outrage at her comments

At the same time What Ava & Dewitt did was wrong. They outed Blaze without her consent.

Today I did a re-watch of the first 3 days of this week. Only Sonny is maybe giving Natalia a pass. Without question every other single person was not only appalled at Natalia but totally unwilling to let Natalia continue to spew garbage in any of their presences. EVERYONE at Deception judged Natalia harshly. Which is what she deserves, of course.

Maxie: I didn't mean that part. I only said it to prompt Natalia to sacrifice herself but I seriously underestimated that woman's self-absorption. GH 7-2-24

Then we see her at Sonny's when Alexis comes to tell him about Ava.

Natalia: I can't help how I feel.

Alexis: Well, I think that you can .. Help how you feel, perhaps by opening your mind.  GH 7-3-24

Nina was crystal clear in her judgment of Natalia. 

We know what both DeWitt & Ava thought of her.

Now, Sonny he knew how she felt. so he was robbed of being outraged in his surprise. Plus, he may withhold comments until after they have sex. 

Edited July 5, 20241 yr by Contessa Donatella
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6 hours ago, DRW50 said:

Well, it depends on the soap...

Even at their worst / lowest, I've yet to see an international soap as bad as the American soaps have been the past 5–15+ years. Even Hollyoaks, which I did stop watching, was not as bad / dumb as we're seeing play-out right now.

We haven't even seen today but I gave Maxie the Hero of the Week. Her speech was amazing! 

Maxie: I'm saying the opposite of that. What Deception cannot afford is to have a "Face" representing us who is ashamed of who she is, of being gay. Deception is a diverse organization, made up of many people, YouTubers, TikTockers, influencers, many of whom are gay & proud of it. And, they represent a very large social media presence. Deception cannot align itself with someone who is ashamed of being gay. Deception is a gay friendly company. So, Natalia, you & Blaze either get with the program or kick rocks. GH 7-2-24 

And, NLG is like a nursery rhyme. When she is good, she is very very good & this week she was just that good. I have no idea why at times they don't write for her. 

On 7/4/2024 at 12:45 AM, Contessa Donatella said:

About Trina, tired of being patient. Give her some story & do it as close to yesterday as is possible. That is all. 

Ava asked Trina to help her against Sonny and she dodged that. She stayed out of trouble but is still without a story. I think the show has downgraded their relationship from surrogate parent/daughter to just employer/employee. 

Nina and Maxie often feel more like mother/daughter than Felicia/Maxie, and obviously Nina/Willow. 

11 minutes ago, BetterForgotten said:

Nina and Maxie often feel more like mother/daughter than Felicia/Maxie, and obviously Nina/Willow. 

Maxie & Nina feel like sisters, honestly, and I appreciate that nod to their shared connection to Nathan.

1 hour ago, Aragorn said:

Ava asked Trina to help her against Sonny and she dodged that. She stayed out of trouble but is still without a story. I think the show has downgraded their relationship from surrogate parent/daughter to just employer/employee. 

Ava really put her on the spot & in a bad way. You could really tell that Trina didn't like it, not one bit. Trina & Joss talked it over, intelligently, while being aware that Ava's room at the MC overlooks the pool area, which is where they were. After they caught up, Gio & Trina had this nothing little conversation but the thing that was striking was how they were grinning so big at each other. If they're going to have them become more than friends, I wish they would get it going.

7.5.2024

HW: Patrick Mulcahey & Elizabeth Korte

BDW: Nigel Campbell

SW: Cathy LePard

DIR: Robert Markham

Ok Sonny, Ava was wrong for giving that recording to DeWitt But it all falls back on Natalia. Those were her words. She said them and she meant them.

The thing is the audience already knew Natalia was homophobic and couldn’t accept Blaze’s sexuality. She was never a sympathetic character, so this “scandal” doesn’t do much in the way of endearing her to anyone or highlight anything new about this unbearable character. 

11 minutes ago, BetterForgotten said:

The thing is the audience already knew Natalia was homophobic and couldn’t accept Blaze’s sexuality. She was never a sympathetic character, so this “scandal” doesn’t do much in the way of endearing her to anyone or highlight anything new about this unbearable character. 

Yabbut said audience wants to see her at an absolute minimum be called out for it!!!

So the Label drops Blaze....Hmmm Could Lois restart L& B and take on Blaze?

Kristina, FTW!

Kate Mansi killed it today. She might even have her Emmy reel ready. And as much as I want Natalia to just go away and never come back, I thought Eva La Rue did pretty well too.

Not really sure about Blaze getting dropped by her label though. That part of the story seems about twenty years too late.

The Gio/Trina scenes were really sweet. The two actors do have some chemistry too. And it seemed to me like those scenes were unintentionally juxtaposed against the Dex/Joss scenes, and kind of showed fans which actress should be featured more by GH and which actress needs to be sent to the backburner and left there. 

And I'll say it again, as charming and adorable as Gio is and as much I like Dex, they're no Cam and Spencer and trying to recreate Cam/Spencer/Trina/Joss with the two of them is not gonna work.

On 7/4/2024 at 9:26 AM, Liberty City said:

This is why a lot of us are enjoying international soaps, Errol. They don't play their audiences as dumb like American soaps.

I'm currently enjoying international shows as well, particularly South Korean and Turkish dramas. The Chinese dramas piss me off because the female lead is always a weakling, and somehow the mistress is idolized by the male lead's friends and families, while the wife is looked up to as a peasant or a nuisance. Otherwise, American soaps are feeling like a chore to get through.

On 7/4/2024 at 8:48 AM, John said:

I dont see anyone but possibly Sonny who's horny possibly giving Natalia a pass. Everyone else showed outrage at her comments

At the same time What Ava & Dewitt did was wrong. They outed Blaze without her consent.

I don't think Ava knowingly outed Blaze. As far as she knew, Blaze was out. Regardless, it's not her job to protect a grown adult. Talk to me when she does it and it impacts a minor.

Otherwise, most people are coming off anti-Ava regardless of their stance on Natalia. They are against Ava for outing the bigot more than the person who said the thing to begin with. That bothers me.

2 hours ago, Errol said:

I'm currently enjoying international shows as well, particularly South Korean and Turkish dramas. The Chinese dramas piss me off because the female lead is always a weakling, and somehow the mistress is idolized by the male lead's friends and families, while the wife is looked up to as a peasant or a nuisance. Otherwise, American soaps are feeling like a chore to get through.

I don't think Ava knowingly outed Blaze. As far as she knew, Blaze was out. Regardless, it's not her job to protect a grown adult. Talk to me when she does it and it impacts a minor.

Otherwise, most people are coming off anti-Ava regardless of their stance on Natalia. They are against Ava for outing the bigot more than the person who said the thing to begin with. That bothers me.

It sends such an awful message that the bigot is somehow the wronged party.

1 hour ago, Antoyne said:

It sends such an awful message that the bigot is somehow the wronged party.

I do not think anyone except Natalia herself, thinks for even one minute that she is a victim in this. When she tried to say as much in the Deception office, she was basically shouted down. And, even if Ava thought that Blaze was out, she knowingly humiliated her by having her mother speak such horrible things about her. It is very clear who did what. And, Ava spent a lot of time on this. She had to edit herself out of the whole recording. It was not illegal, but it was hateful, spiteful, hurtful & amazingly unnecessary. This IS Ava & it's totally true to her character to do something like this. 

Kate Mansi was on top of the world today. She said that Natalia was a bigot & it is her own choice that she is so. Kristina is absolutely right. However, Natalia persisted all along that she can't help the way she was brought up, thinking that gay people are confused but that they choose to be this way. Those 2 things do not make sense together.