@DeliaIrisFan That's a great idea about Ryan - it would have meant Jill did not get the very strong material she had after Edmond's death, but they could have found story in her continuing to raise Edmond and her deepening split with Seneca.
Thanks, robb. I don't recall the haunted house, but wasn't watching the show much then. The big storyline at the end involved artificial insemination. Kevin (David Ackroyd) had become paralyzed, but was excited because his wife Amy (Jada may have returned by then) was pregnant. Unfortunately, Amy lost the baby. She begged her doctor, Dr. Brian Neeves (Jeff Pomerantz) to help her get artificial insemination. Without telling her, Brian used the most available donor: himself. Of course, he was also in love with Amy, much to the chagrin of his rather creepy sister Niele (Betsy von Furstenberg), who seemed unnaturally attached to her brother. Her name was pronounced Nee-ELL. The show ended happily with a no longer paralyzed Kevin making his way across the room to Amy.
After some recent postings, I began to watch Mansion of the Damned, which interestingly started the day after my favorite scene ever of EON, when Raven gives Jamey to April and Draper on her way out of town. My recollection is how cruel Logan was to Raven. Even though his anger was justified at her neglect of Jamey, telling her that she was incapable of love always felt so final and mean.
However, my attention drifted from the Mansion storyline back to the Winter Austin trial which happened earlier that year. By the way, it is remarkable how much story was told in 1979, first Winter's trial, then we got the Paige's trial, the Mansion of the Damned, and then Margo's murder. On Y&R that would be a decade worth of scripts.
Any way, the reason for my post was to remark on how charming Logan could be during Winter's trial. I would encourage any soap fan to go to YT and watch April 30, 1979. The concerned citizens of Monticello are having lunch during a recess in the trial before Winter is going to take the stand. Cliff and Logan are at a diner . They are secretly slipped the tape of Winter at the crime scene. The dialogue between Logan, Cliff, and the waitress was golden. Cliff is the ADA and he is worried about Logan trying to usurp his authority on the case because of his connection to Winter. There is one anachronistic touch in that when Wade taped his "make out" session with a drugged Nicole and Winter, it is never referred to directly as sexual assault. However, one scene later, we see Mike, Nancy, and Draper eating together at a much classier establishment. Logan rushes in to try to warn Draper about the tape, but Cliff stops him, again their interplay was delightful.
What struck me the most is that this should have been a filler episode with everyone having lunch during the trial recess, and using exposition to catch up the audience on the progress of the plot. However, with such a capable writer and actors, you can't help but become fascinated in all of the details of the scenes and their various interactions. The snappy reportage and the speed that they deliver lines makes it seem like a movie from the 1930s, but the content of their speech seems so contemporary, especially as they openly discuss porn.
So good, 10/10 would recommend!
I'm glad they never fully went there with Jack and Siobhan, even with Sarah Felder.
It would have made sense for Jack and Mary's differences to continue to drive a wedge between them, even after Jack took responsibility for Ryan and they reconciled. There were surely all sorts of other Ryan family heirlooms that would trigger Jack in new ways.
To j swift's point, there is a way they could have justified Mary leaving NY and upped the stakes of the mob story even more than they did by killing her off: if baby Ryan had been accidentally(?) killed in an Uncle Tiso–ordered explosion or something. Instead of killing off Edmond, which never packed as much of a punch because Frank was clearly too self-absorbed to really care about his children, but none of the other characters seemingly noticed. Whereas Jack and everyone else besides Mary and Maeve swore up and down he'd never be a good father, but we actually saw him grow to love Ryan.
Claire Labine would have written the hell out of it, of course. Maybe Kate Mulgrew could have been persuaded to return longer-term at some point in the '80s, between gigs, and Jack and Mary could have tried to deal with their mutual grief and make it work again, but ultimately...
When/how did they go from romantic location shoots for Maggie and Dave to Maggie being the spoiler for Dave and the cheerleader from Romy and Michelle's High School Reunion (I know she was supposed to be playing one of Kathleen's daughters, but from what little I saw of her run, I suspect she had a way better role in Romy and Michelle)? Didn't I read that the mid-'80s writers recycle one or more of Delia's desperate antics to hang onto Frank/Pat with Maggie/Dave, or am I making that up? Never mind that this promo was mere months after she was conspiring—among other things—with Roger to ingratiate herself as Jill's long-lost sister.
I like what I've seen of CT's intro and Maggie doing battle with Delia toward the show's end, but I have a hard time believing there was a plausible throughline for Maggie's character in the intervening years.