3 hours ago, ranger1rg said:

That ENORMOUS list -- 24 names!!! -- tells you everything that's wrong about the opening.

I rewound to watch it again, and many of the updates are good ones, but each photo should get a moment to make an impression, and that doesn't happen. Two seconds later, you forget who was in the open.

Y&R gives us 8 headshots, and that means each actor gets that moment. You then have an idea who's going to appear on that episode.

I do admit that I've been noticing the updates and except for a few I really do like them. Like Drew with his scruff. lol.

 

That's the one thing I don't like about the opening. It gives you no idea who will be in that episode that day. And that's what I do like about Y&R.

I do feel that even though Patrick Mulcahey is credited as CO-HW still, its really just Elizabeth Korte. We have no signs of Sonny's meds story and now Carly is blaming everything on Cates.

Today's show was broken down by Emily Culliton & Scripted by Kate Hall. Maybe GH should make those ladies & children of well known/liked soap scribes, their new Head-Writer Team.

4 hours ago, Soapsuds said:

I really enjoyed Tracy's scenes with Finn. She is golden.

It's too bad I don't care about Finn or that brat.

No, you get a complete pass on detesting Vile-Ette. 

If Elizabeth Korte is truly sole HW now, can she just end this Heather possibly being freed because of Cobalt poison mess?

2 minutes ago, John said:

If Elizabeth Korte is truly sole HW now, can she just end this Heather possibly being freed because of Cobalt poison mess?

AFA we know she is co-HW without another co. 

Also there is writing that is still Patrick's. 

What I sense is a subtle shift, as if the proportion is different. I suspect now more is Korte/Frank & I say that in that way because there is no doubt that Frank is one of those EPs who can't stay out of the writing. So that leaves Patrick being less. 

35 minutes ago, John said:

I do feel that even though Patrick Mulcahey is credited as CO-HW still, its really just Elizabeth Korte. We have no signs of Sonny's meds story and now Carly is blaming everything on Cates.

Today's show was broken down by Emily Culliton & Scripted by Kate Hall. Maybe GH should make those ladies & children of well known/liked soap scribes, their new Head-Writer Team.

For the 190th time, Kate Hall has absolutely NO interest in being a headwriter. She has stated that time after time. She writes dialogue. She does not write storylines. Kind of like Mulcahey. He writes great dialogue but is a terrible headwriter. 

21 minutes ago, John said:

If Elizabeth Korte is truly sole HW now, can she just end this Heather possibly being freed because of Cobalt poison mess?

Wasn’t it CVE’s story? I doubt they would cut it considering the older writing regime and FV liked using Mills. When has FV demonstrated he has any idea what the audience wants to see and is willing to change course?

48 minutes ago, John said:

We have no signs of Sonny's meds story

See? I was just asking about that yesterday. It has vanished, hasn't it?

29 minutes ago, Taoboi said:

See? I was just asking about that yesterday. It has vanished, hasn't it?

Do you remember that the pharmacist was very unhappy & he said so to Valentin after "Mrs. Corinthos" (Ava) questioned him. 

41 minutes ago, Taoboi said:

See? I was just asking about that yesterday. It has vanished, hasn't it?

It feels like things are.. shifting a bit, but do I think it's dropped? No. I don't.

58 minutes ago, Contessa Donatella said:

Do you remember that the pharmacist was very unhappy & he said so to Valentin after "Mrs. Corinthos" (Ava) questioned him. 

That's another thing! They haven't followed up on that scene at all. lol. I would think that Val would be doing everything to be sure his cover might not be blown. 

 

48 minutes ago, Liberty City said:

It feels like things are.. shifting a bit, but do I think it's dropped? No. I don't.

Oh, yeah...there's a feeling of momentum going on (and I saw this week's promo). I've been saying as I've binged that there's a feeling of hitting the 'middles' of storylines right now so I would like to think we are about to hit some climaxes of some sort. Or turns.

 

 

3 hours ago, Taoboi said:

That's the one thing I don't like about the opening. It gives you no idea who will be in that episode that day. And that's what I do like about Y&R.

I'm of the mindset that you SHOULDN'T know ahead of time which actors will be in that day's episode.  (Just as I feel you shouldn't know which breakdown or dialogue/script writer wrote that episode.  Sorry, Toups!)  You're running the risk of audience members tuning out if they think their favorite actors won't be featured that day.

That's what I love about the soap openings that didn't/don't feature any actors.  You wanna know if your favorite actor will be on today?  You'll just have to stay tuned and find out, lol.

Edited June 25, 20241 yr by Khan

1 minute ago, Khan said:

I'm of the mindset that you SHOULDN'T know ahead of time which actors will be in that day's episode.  (Just as I feel you shouldn't know which breakdown or dialogue/script writer wrote that episode.  Sorry, Toups!)  You're running the risk of audience members tuning out if they think their favorite actors won't be featured that day.

That's what I love about the soap openings that didn't/don't feature any actors.  You wanna know if your favorite actor will be on today?  You'll just have to stay tuned and find out, lol.

I know what I said lol, but I don't mind the surprise of a random appearance of a character mid-episode. Y&R used to corner the market on doing that. In fact, there has been a few of those kind of appearances of late on there and in my GH binging right now, and it makes me glad I made it through a dull scene here or there.

 

I do agree with your reasoning on that as well in a 'two things can be true' way of thinking but I'm a Gem. I'm allowed. hehe.

 

Now writing-wise...lol...I have to disagree. Some of the fun of the HW name swap has been you immediately know if you are going to get an introspective/intelligent conversation or just some plot ho-how. And I admit I roll my eyes any time I see the name Lucky Gold on screen because I just can't stand his Waiting for Gadot (as if!) style of writing scenes. 

2 minutes ago, Taoboi said:

And I admit I roll my eyes any time I see the name Lucky Gold on screen because I just can't stand his Waiting for Gadot (as if!) style of writing scenes. 

Which is oddly fascinating to me, because, BITD, Lucky Gold (or Lloyd, as he was known as back then) wrote for OLTL, which employed some very fine dialogue writers (Gold, Lanie Bertram, Don Wallace, etc.).

1 minute ago, Khan said:

Which is oddly fascinating to me, because, BITD, Lucky Gold (or Lloyd, as he was known as back then) wrote for OLTL, which employed some very fine dialogue writers (Gold, Lanie Bertram, Don Wallace, etc.).

IKR.

 

You can do the same 'I have something to tell you' only to be delayed/distracted/interrupted a whole lot better (or even with an intelligent dialogue detour) than what we get from him. And it probably says something I know the writer in question and have watched from show to show to show now that now I just get irked. lol.

 

And I'm pretty sure I used to like him which makes it worse.