52 minutes ago, Taoboi said:

5 hours ago, Faulkner said:

 

This is why we need a Michael Logan. A soap journalist attached to a powerful brand who isn’t scared of pissing off TPTB. We need a Patrick Mulcahey exit interview, STAT.

SAME!!!

Funny, I just recently said that I missed him. Everyone wanted to know WHY. I said it was because of his access. He could get people to talk to him when they wouldn't talk to anyone else! 

Soap journalism today is  ... meh. Mara's doing good work at Digest. SoapHub is in a state of decline. No other was very good in some time. IMO. 

5 minutes ago, Khan said:

That's why I'm not sticking with GH any longer.  Because, even if something magical were to happen in the next several days or weeks, what would be the point?

PM and EK could be replaced by Nancy Curlee and Lorraine Broderick tomorrow, but until FV learns to get out of the way and just produce the [!@#$%^&*] show, nothing's gonna change.  Nothing.

And to think there was a time when I was ready to see Wendy Riche and Bob Guza go.  But, like the song says, you don't know what you've got 'til it's gone.

But mid-summer could be fun.

 

But seriously. If there is anything that I appear to have taken from this news it's the fact that what I've said for years is true.

 

There have been so many times where GH has been on the uptake. Where things are happening and it's not boring, but exciting. And then...something happens. I used to say that it had to be FV because it makes no sense when it looks like characters would be getting their comeuppance, or characters should be talking to get together, etc. and then some lame/lazy/stupid plot device happens and then we as the audience are right back at the start of the race/hamster wheel. And even if we get what we want some (lazy) plot twist happens and that actor/actress we were happy to get rid of is back in some way. Or worse the same exact plot.

 

I don't care how 'under budget' FV gets GH if the only reason we as the audience are not getting great story or wasted potential is because he micromanages even worse than Ken Corday over on DAYS. 

 

He can go find a golf course himself. Or the door period. 

 

 

7 minutes ago, Contessa Donatella said:

Funny, I just recently said that I missed him. Everyone wanted to know WHY. I said it was because of his access. He could get people to talk to him when they wouldn't talk to anyone else! 

Soap journalism today is  ... meh. Mara's doing good work at Digest. SoapHub is in a state of decline. No other was very good in some time. IMO. 

I mean the exit interview. But I guess would he be the only one who would have the balls to do it and make it no holds barred.

 

 

9 minutes ago, Taoboi said:

But mid-summer could be fun.

 

But seriously. If there is anything that I appear to have taken from this news it's the fact that what I've said for years is true.

 

There have been so many times where GH has been on the uptake. Where things are happening and it's not boring, but exciting. And then...something happens. I used to say that it had to be FV because it makes no sense when it looks like characters would be getting their comeuppance, or characters should be talking to get together, etc. and then some lame/lazy/stupid plot device happens and then we as the audience are right back at the start of the race/hamster wheel. And even if we get what we want some (lazy) plot twist happens and that actor/actress we were happy to get rid of is back in some way. Or worse the same exact  

 

 

I mean the exit interview. But I guess would he be the only one who would have the balls to do it and make it no holds barred.

What about Michael Fairman? I know at times he lobs softballs, but at other times he seems at least thorough. I suppose that is damning with faint praise. What I am getting at is he always is prepared. 

One can hope.

10 minutes ago, Taoboi said:

There have been so many times where GH has been on the uptake. Where things are happening and it's not boring, but exciting. And then...something happens. I used to say that it had to be FV because it makes no sense when it looks like characters would be getting their comeuppance, or characters should be talking to get together, etc. and then some lame/lazy/stupid plot device happens and then we as the audience are right back at the start of the race/hamster wheel. And even if we get what we want some (lazy) plot twist happens and that actor/actress we were happy to get rid of is back in some way. Or worse the same exact plot.

See, this is why I felt patting FV and RC on their backs so much JUST because GH had fallen so low with whatever regime was there before them was a bad move on viewers' and soap "journalists"' parts that would come back to bite everyone in the end; because, if you were really paying attention, you could see that what those two were doing was all smoke and mirrors. 

The plain truth is there's never been any substance to anything Frank and Ron have done.  Not on OLTL, not on GH, and ESPECIALLY not on DAYS, where Ron runs amok now.  But there was more than enough "bad" going around at that time on GH to hold their asses to the fire.  Yet, it seemed like all most anyone cared about, aside from their overblown and overplayed favorites, was "Oooh, look at who's coming back for the 50th!".

Frankly, I didn't gaf who Frank and Ron were bringing back for the 50th, or any of the Soapy Goodness like "Magic Milo" or "The Two Faces of Kate" that was less like actual, GOOD soap opera and more like a bad drag act.  I knew what I was watching was uglier than homemade sin.

So, now, here we are: stuck with a controlling, micro-managing EP, who's been made to think his [!@#$%^&*] doesn't stink and who will never, EVER be lodged from this show, no matter what.

I’d love to learn the story about who from ABC sought PM out of retirement to get him to come back to GH as HW, and why they were so quick to see him go or foster an environment where he was being sabotaged and had to quit ~5 months in. Why even bother in the first place? 

I seriously doubt Varni had any f.ucking clue who PM was before this and FV never wanted an intelligent writer on this show that couldn’t cater to his shallow and off-putting vision (or whatever it is, because dude has no clue how to steer a soap opera for a quality product). 

Edited May 17, 20241 yr by BetterForgotten

11 minutes ago, Khan said:

See, this is why I felt patting FV and RC on their backs so much JUST because GH had fallen so low with whatever regime was there before them was a bad move on viewers' and soap "journalists"' parts that would come back to bite everyone in the end; because, if you were really paying attention, you could see that what those two were doing was all smoke and mirrors. 

The plain truth is there's never been any substance to anything Frank and Ron have done.  Not on OLTL, not on GH, and ESPECIALLY not on DAYS, where Ron runs amok now.  But there was more than enough "bad" going around at that time on GH to hold their asses to the fire.  Yet, it seemed like all most anyone cared about, aside from their overblown and overplayed favorites, was "Oooh, look at who's coming back for the 50th!".

Frankly, I didn't gaf who Frank and Ron were bringing back for the 50th, or any of the Soapy Goodness like "Magic Milo" or "The Two Faces of Kate" that was less like actual, GOOD soap opera and more like a bad drag act.  I knew what I was watching was uglier than homemade sin.

So, now, here we are: stuck with a controlling, micro-managing EP, who's been made to think his [!@#$%^&*] doesn't stink and who will never, EVER be lodged from this show, no matter what.

While I admit I felt 2013 was mostly a good year and love the return of my Brenda in 2013...I could not with 2014 or anything beyond that...I bow down to you, Cassandra. 

4 minutes ago, BetterForgotten said:

 

I serious doubt Varni had any f.ucking clue who PM was before this and FV never wanted an intelligent writer on this show that couldn’t cater to his shallow and off-putting vision (or whatever it is, because dude has no clue how to steer a soap opera for a quality product). 

I feel you are going to find out soon enough per Errol mentioning of the other new ('new') writing team on the horizon because it really seems like there's more to the story than a power struggle between PM and FV. More like FV vs someone else who was probably the one who wanted PM in the first place. 

4 hours ago, ranger1rg said:

This deification of Patrick Mulcahey is too much for me.

Great scriptwriter? Yes -- we have proof of that. We do not have proof that he's a great head writer or even a capable one. We do have evidence that GH -- in my opinion -- is not working right now.

I have no idea of story direction or story existence. I have no idea of what's going on with all these "career changes," especially for the women. I have no idea why this cast is still beyond bloated.

Is PM to blame for any of that? I don't know, but I can't give him credit for any good changes and blame others for everything that's wrong. How does he get credit for a sensitive, nuanced Tracy and no blame for a former cover model who becomes a cook?

A huge chunk of audience has left since PM started, and we all know that heads roll when that happens. If Mulcahey was the writer fighting Valentini, Korte, Van Etten, Varni, and everyone else, then it's obvious he's the one to go.

No, I don't know or have any hope the show will be "good" without him, but I do know it isn't good with him. "His stories haven't started yet" doesn't work for me. This transition has been a disaster.

I don't put stock in ANYTHING actors said about PM, or in anything they'll say about the new team. It's all transactional for them, and they want to keep their jobs. They say what they have to say to remain employed.

Mulcahey was never going to have control over Valentini and Korte, who have been at GH forever. We thought he'd be the GH savior, but he wasn't. Is that because he wasn't given enough  power? Maybe, but that's irrelevant. Expecting a 70+ year old  guy to work miracles within a structure like the one at GH was never going to happen.

Agreed.  The fact is we don't know who is responsible for what.  All the "good" things are by Mulcahey and all the "bad" things are Korte/Valentini....like come on.  We just don't know.   I'm a Mulcahey fan......a fan of is script writing.  I wanted him to succeed and make GH better, but clearly, he wasn't able to.  Sometimes, writers aren't meant to be HWs - they are better as staff members.   Just like in the NFL, some coaches, such as Josh McDaniels, Steve Spagnolia, Wade Phillips, just to name a few, are great coordinators but were not very good at the head coaching position.   I really hope this won't be the last we see of Mulcahey and hope he joins The Gates......but as a script writer, a position where he is probably the best to ever do it. 

Korte being HW still scares me because of her hard-on for Jason/Carly. 

 

I was convinced that Patrick Mulcahey COULD be a good HW when I watched B&B's transgender storyline, a story he was largely responsible for, and the last time B&B had any writing with any depth to it.

With all due respect, @Toups: I understand your POV, but I'm not gonna debate a subject like this with someone who thinks JER is the greatest soap writer who ever lived. On his own, the man had 3-4 good years at one show; and even though his writing managed to pull said show out of the ratings gutter, there is still debate over whether his success came at the expense of the show's integrity.

@ranger1rg, on the other hand, is someone whose opinions on this I take seriously, or more seriously, because at least they remember when Y&R was written by people who knew how (even if we'll have to agree to disagree about Shick, I think, lol).

Edited May 17, 20241 yr by Khan

14 minutes ago, Khan said:

I was convinced that Patrick Mulcahey COULD be a good HW when I watched B&B's transgender storyline, a story he was largely responsible for, and the last time B&B had any writing with any depth to it.

With all due respect, @Toups: I understand your POV, but I'm not gonna debate a subject like this with someone who thinks JER is the greatest soap writer who ever lived. On his own, the man had 3-4 good years at one show; and even though his writing managed to pull said show out of the ratings gutter, there is still debate over whether his success came at the expense of the show's integrity.

@ranger1rg, on the other hand, is someone whose opinions on this I take seriously, or more seriously, because at least they remember when Y&R was written by people who knew how (even if we'll have to agree to disagree about Shick, I think, lol).

I don't think JER is the "greatest soap writer who ever lived."  LOL  He was my favourite though.  I know what his faults were, but I still enjoyed a lot of his stories.  Also, you don't have do "debate" me on anything. You didn't even have to reply to me.   I was just stating my opinion. 

Pass.

I take a sabbatical and come back to chaos! Folks fighting, poor Patrick fired...

Patrick, just ask your girl, Michelle, for a job. 

Expect a very very popular and beloved actress to possibly be out this year. I’d be shocked if the original path doesn’t go to plan. #GH

— casey (@_Case1999) May 17, 2024

Let’s just say, allegedly, Patrick was saving jobs of people we actually want on screen

— casey (@_Case1999) May 17, 2024

I don't need a map to guess who that is.

1 minute ago, Vee said:

I don't need a map to guess who that is.

i could think a few

Hope it aint Genie Francis. The last time Frank tried that, it didnt go well

But I could see it being: Nina, Ava, Liz or Sam too