Members soapfan770 Posted April 5 Members Share Posted April 5 Thinking about it, it does fascinate me that ATWT somehow how managed to keep the Hughes and the Lowell/Stewart families as part of its core for its entire run. Same with B&B with the Forresters and Logans and Days with the Hortons. But that’s obviously not true for every soap. We all know AW lost the Matthews and later Frame clans by the shows end sans Josie to much negative impact, while Y&R got rid of the Brooks and Fosters sans Jill to surprisingly positive impact. What are some other examples of a whole core family eventually disappearing from a soap? I know Days wiped out the Andersons and forgettable families like the Scofields came and gone. B&B of course shamefully got rid of the Spectras. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members titan1978 Posted April 6 Members Share Posted April 6 OLTL lost the Wolek’s, but the Lord family stayed important all the way to the end. They started as the two core families though. AMC- was anybody left from Phoebe’s family at the end of the ABC run? I know Brooke was in the PP revival, but hadn’t she left the main show? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted April 6 Members Share Posted April 6 (edited) Brooke had returned for AMC"s last year. Edited April 6 by DRW50 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NothinButAttitude Posted April 6 Members Share Posted April 6 Guiding Light was literally depleted of the Bauers the final years. Rick only popped up every blue moon. I do hope that had the show carried on that would've changed with Leah, Jude, Robby, and Hope leading the charge. It became too Cooper and Shayne heavy. GH has all but ditched the Hardy/Webber clan. Liz and her kids are the last ones standing. Hopefully, the new regime will realize her importance (along with the hospital). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted April 6 Members Share Posted April 6 They did give him a bit with Mindy but I can't remember if he was on contract by the end. If the show hadn't been canceled they were going to bring in a recast Michelle. Instead, they just had that actress play a guest role and brought Nancy St. Alban (zzzz) back a few times. I think the end of the show had Michelle and Danny moving back to Springfield. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NothinButAttitude Posted April 6 Members Share Posted April 6 Thank God. As a Manny fan, I didn't particularly care for NSA's Michelle. I wonder who they could've cast. My dream would've been for Bethany Joie Lenz to reprise the role, but I know One Tree Hill was still on air. And I totally blocked out Rick/Mindy at the end. It was such a blur. I always felt Mindy grew to be too sophisticated for Rick once my fave, Kimberly Simms, stepped into the role. But I guess since it was Krista Tesreau's version, it is OK. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted April 6 Members Share Posted April 6 I had forgotten her name last night but that Michelle would have been Beth Ann Bonner. I agree that Michael O'Leary suited Krista much more than Kim. It was odd to imagine that she was meant to be in love with Rick. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NothinButAttitude Posted April 7 Members Share Posted April 7 I like Beth Ann but I feel like she would've been too rough and edgy to play Michelle. Michelle had edge but not that much. I always felt Beth Ann would've been more suitable playing a vixen even when she was on OLTL. I felt like Talia was a bore and didn't let Beth Ann shine. I would've cast Martha Madison as Michelle but wasn't she being considered as Marah one point? And one pet peeve of mine on soaps is giving everyone a happy ending. I like some things to be left open to imagination or some resemblance to reality that everyone doesn't get a happy ending. Yes, while I was p*ssed Lisa (on ATWT) didn't get a happy ending, I did roll my eyes at Frank/Blake being slapped together so quickly along with Rick/Mindy and Lillian/Buzz. But I should probably go rant about that in the GL thread... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted April 7 Members Share Posted April 7 I think Lillian and Buzz had been together for a year or two before the show ended. I don't disagree about happy endings that feel unearned, but I didn't really mind them on GL, maybe because I'd already seen so much misery on the show over the years. With that said, one of the few things I will praise the ATWT ending for was not reuniting Lily and Holden. I had forgotten Martha was considered for Marah. She would have been dull as hell in whatever role she had, I'm sure. For me Rachel Miner was still Michelle, although Bethany was the best after her. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NothinButAttitude Posted April 7 Members Share Posted April 7 (RE: Lillian/Buzz) Were they? That could've been an aspect of the show I blocked out as I didn't care for either character. I always felt those were two characters they could've gotten rid of. Especially, Buzz. I am glad I am NOT alone in being happy that Lily/Holden weren't reunited in the end. Personally, I wanted the two characters to move on from each other and just be friends and co-parent had the show continued. The two broke up so much that I was over them. Would Rachel had even been open to returning? I always get the feel that she closed the door on GL. She is my initial Michelle, but Bethany is my fave. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Paul Raven Posted April 7 Members Share Posted April 7 Y&R introduced the Williams as the new core working class family when the show went to an hour in 1980. Built around Paul, there was Carl, Mary,Patty, Steve and Todd (not seen) April married Paul and Heather was their child. Bit one by one they were dropped and a few years later it was back to Paul and Mary, Carl, Patty and Todd reappeared in short stints as did April but basically to play off Paul who finally disappeared himself. Heather is currently onscreen but she could pretty much be anybody. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Janet Marlowe Posted April 8 Members Share Posted April 8 (edited) All My Children kept the Martin and Kane families for the entire run; but, yes - the Tyler family was severly reduced by the early '80s. Edited April 8 by Janet Marlowe 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members I Am A Swede Posted April 8 Members Share Posted April 8 I wonder if any other soap has disposed of it's founding family with such ruthlessness as the British soap Emmerdale did with their first family, the Sugdens..... I guess it was an omen of things to come when the show began with the funeral of patriarch Jacob Sugden Annie Sugden (the matriarch) - dead Sam Pearson (Annie's father) - dead Jack Sugden (Annie's son) - dead Joe Sugden (Annie's son) - dead Peggy Skilbeck (Annie's daughter) - dead Jackie Merrick (Jack's son) - dead Sam Skilbeck (Peggy's son) - dead Sally Skilbeck (Peggy's daughter) - dead Pat Merrick (Jack's first wife) - dead Sarah Sugden (Jack's second wife) - dead Kate Sugden (Joe's wife) - dead Leonard Kempinski - (Annie's second husband) - dead Amos Brearly (Annie's third husband) - dead Mark Hughes (Joe's stepson) - dead Rachel Hughes (Joe's stepdaughter) - dead The living members of the extended Sugden family currently off-screen are : Robert Sugden (Jack's son) - in prison Andy Sugden (Jack's adopted son) - on the run from the law Matt Skilbeck (Peggy's widower) - moved away in 1989 Dolly Skilbeck (Matt's second wife) - moved away in 1991 Samuel Skilbeck (Matt's son with Dolly) - moved away in 1991 Joseph Sugden (Rachel's son) - on the run Sandie Merrick (Jack's stepdaughter) - moved away in 1989 Kathy Brookman (Jackie's widow) - moved to Australia in 2001 Jack Sugden (Andy's son) - moved away in 2019 Only Victoria Sugden (Jack's daughter) and Sarah Sugden (Andy's daughter) remain on the show to this day. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Soaplovers Posted April 11 Members Share Posted April 11 I didn't know about Martha being considered for Michelle. From what I recall..Beth Bonner and Sabine Singh were in the running. I think Sabine would have been a good Michelle recast. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Paul Raven Posted April 12 Members Share Posted April 12 AW Matthews Family final appearance Granny June 64 Janet June 66 Bill July 69 Mary March 75 Mike Dec 79 Pat Jan 82 guest appearance 89 Marianne Feb 82 Jim April 82 Alice May 85 guest appearance 89 Susan Dec 82 Julia Aug 84 Olivia May 92 Russ Nov 92 Liz May 94 Josie June 99 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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