12 minutes ago, Liberty City said:

Oh God, that was my first thought. 🤣 Horrible production model, but a much better series than it has become.

What's funny about RuPaul's Drag Race is that the more broad it's trying to become, the less honest it is. I hope Beyond the Gates can balance this - broad emotions, but true to themselves. Hell, take it as a tag line.

19 minutes ago, Contessa Donatella said:

Riiiight. Which is why I said I was on the right track because I VERY rarely bet. .... 

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16 minutes ago, Maxim said:

Don't worry about it. You know I love you. Real friends have disagreements. Only fake people don't. ❤️

I love the breadth and depth of the sets. These people have money, and I love a soap that mirrors that with great sets that are, yes, "big."

Look at Y&R. One reason we all love the return of the Newman ranch is because it speaks money. What else does on the show? Very little. I you showed a non-viewer some photos of those sets, they'd never guess that these people are worth millions.

Victoria living in the tack house is ridiculous, as is Nick not having a place to live. Phyllis "lost" her place, too. Billy's new place is nice (although I understand the criticisms of it) but doesn't represent someone with a big bank account. I see the Abbott mansion and Sharon's place as iconic, so I'm OK with those, but we're still having nightmares over the ruination of the Chancellor mansion.

It just reeks of "We have to save money so we need smaller sets that we leave up for long periods so we don't need a crew to move them in and out." Then we end up with characters moving from Society for lunch to Crimson Lights for coffee and then back to Society. Ugh.

My hope is that BTG embarrasses shows like Y&R which used to be the standard. I don't need two new sets per week (a la GH). I want to see MONEY on the screen.

Just now, ranger1rg said:

I love the breadth and depth of the sets. These people have money, and I love a soap that mirrors that with great sets that are, yes, "big."

Look at Y&R. One reason we all love the return of the Newman ranch is because it speaks money. What else does on the show? Very little. I you showed a non-viewer some photos of those sets, they'd never guess that these people are worth millions.

Victoria living in the tack house is ridiculous, as is Nick not having a place to live. Phyllis "lost" her place, too. Billy's new place is nice (although I understand the criticisms of it) but doesn't represent someone with a big bank account. I see the Abbott mansion and Sharon's place as iconic, so I'm OK with those, but we're still having nightmares over the ruination of the Chancellor mansion.

It just reeks of "We have to save money so we need smaller sets that we leave up for long periods so we don't need a crew to move them in and out." Then we end up with characters moving from Society for lunch to Crimson Lights for coffee and then back to Society. Ugh.

My hope is that BTG embarrasses shows like Y&R which used to be the standard. I don't need two new sets per week (a la GH). I want to see MONEY on the screen.

Or world renowned designers and CEOs eating at this tiny ugly looking restaurant that Deacon and Sheila operate... that looks so cheap and so... UGH... I cringe every time I see Brooke sit there and pretend to eat something. I don't like that set at all. And then we pretend they are so rich and powerful. 

I still don't understand how "the #1 soap" is using embarrassingly bad greenscreen on the regular in lieu of sets but GH isn't and keeps churning out new locations. If anything explains how Frank Valentini is keeping his job it's that wizardry, and I can't fault him for that.

4 minutes ago, ranger1rg said:

It just reeks of "We have to save money so we need smaller sets that we leave up for long periods so we don't need a crew to move them in and out." Then we end up with characters moving from Society for lunch to Crimson Lights for coffee and then back to Society. Ugh.

Every soap today has those problems - I remember the OLTL cast talking about it in their oral history a decade ago. "Why are we having so many scenes in the hospital? Because it's up!" The key is how different shows and their producers manage the constraints to keep a community and canvas still feeling alive and vibrant. Y&R can't.

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2 minutes ago, Maxim said:

Or world renowned designers and CEOs eating at this tiny ugly looking restaurant that Deacon and Sheila operate... that looks so cheap and so... UGH... I cringe every time I see Brooke sit there and pretend to eat something. I don't like that set at all. And then we pretend they are so rich and powerful. 

and not to mention Deacon's Pizza Hut is like the only place in L.A. to eat since they all go there despite hating Sheila lmao

3 minutes ago, Maxim said:

Or world renowned designers and CEOs eating at this tiny ugly looking restaurant that Deacon and Sheila operate... that looks so cheap and so... UGH... I cringe every time I see Brooke sit there and pretend to eat something. I don't like that set at all. And then we pretend they are so rich and powerful. 

Yeah, calling that place Il Giardino is literally putting lipstick on a pig.

Just now, ranger1rg said:

Yeah, calling that place Il Giardino is literally putting lipstick on a pig.

🤣

Calling that show "The Bold And The Beautiful" in it's current state... is putting pearls on a pig. 

1 minute ago, ranger1rg said:

Yeah, calling that place Il Giardino is literally putting lipstick on a pig.

 

Am I the last one who just now realized the Duprees are almost certainly all deliberately wearing black to Dani's ex's wedding? lol

Sounds like the show might start off with a wedding. Wasn't that B&B that did this previously? And who was pointing that gun?

Just now, Maxim said:

🤣

Calling that show "The Bold And The Beautiful" in it's current state... is putting pearls on a pig. 

I could really go into as much detail about Bold's awful sets as I did about Y&R's.

$Bill's "mansion"? It's not. Steffy's hole-in-the-wall? Hilarious! The other day (while bored with the dialogue) I noticed her kitchen. It's about 4'x5' and has no counter space. None. Sets-wise, Bold is actually in worse shape than Y&R.

GH is still putting up new sets all the time, but recently they've all had the same design aesthetic -- minimalist and with shades of blue and grey with occasional cream. Then they throw in actors wearing all black. PASS.

Bold started with leading up to Ridge and Caroline's wedding only for the occasion to be completely ruined by the reveal that Ridge cheated on Caroline... on the day of her wedding. She fainted after coming down the stairs... in her wedding dress. Then Brooke read about that in the newspaper and decided to go to the hospital where Caroline was admitted and "befriend" her... And the rest is history.

Just now, ranger1rg said:

I could really go into as much detail about Bold's awful sets as I did about Y&R's.

$Bill's "mansion"? It's not. Steffy's hole-in-the-wall? Hilarious! The other day (while bored with the dialogue) I noticed her kitchen. It's about 4'x5' and has no counter space. None. Sets-wise, Bold is actually in worse shape than Y&R.

GH is still putting up new sets all the time, but recently they've all had the same design aesthetic -- minimalist and with shades of blue and grey with occasional cream. Then they throw in actors wearing all black. PASS.

And they didn't redecorate that kitchen/living room area after Steffy stabbed poor Sugar to death. That's like cringe.

Even if you continue living in a room where you killed somebody. AT LEAST re-decorate HADRCORE. 

6 minutes ago, Vee said:

Am I the last one who just now realized the Duprees are almost certainly all deliberately wearing black to Dani's ex's wedding? lol

I noticed, I love the pettiness. Was waiting for someone to comment on it haha