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11 minutes ago, te. said:

It's clear that a lot of care went into casting those roles and it makes sense. Make a strong core to carry the show in it's infancy, while have others act more like moving chess pieces and let things fall where they may. Inevitably, there'll be some stand outs among the other cast members and others that really won't be able to connect in a wider sense.

I agree: it's clear that the Dupree family was the most important in terms of casting, and casting "names" was top priority. And I'd wager they aced it out of the park. They visually do look like a family, and their connection seems solid.

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13 minutes ago, te. said:

My plan would be to mainly focus on the "core four" with nationwide media coverage, with a bit of others sprinkled in. I'd then utilise local media and news outlets - especially in the rust belt - for the white cast members. Yes, it's cynical but that's a big audience that still watches linear television (see the success of Yellowstone and Taylor Sheridan), but might need an extra push to check it out. That way it wouldn't take the shine from what Val Jean and the show is trying to do, but at the same time maximise the appeal and not just pigeonhole the show as the "black soap opera". A bit like having your cake and eating it too, if you will. 

Well, no offense, but only four of the main cast are White, and only one of them would be considered any kind of name (Mike Manning). I'd stick to allowing select cast duos/groups of two/three and doing individual CBS affiliate interviews.

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3 minutes ago, Liberty City said:

Well, no offense, but only four of the main cast are White, and only one of them would be considered any kind of name (Mike Manning). I'd stick to allowing select cast duos/groups of two/three and doing individual CBS affiliate interviews.

You're probably right and it's me letting the complete cynic in me take over :) Of course it makes sense to try and promote the non-core cast members more in relation with each other (ie Mike Manning and Brandon Claybon should probably appear in the same promotional circuit). I just hope they take all opportunities to promote this far and wide and manages to walk that thin line between not pigeon-holing the show while also celebrating for it for what it's setting out to achieve. 

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It's interesting how these things play out....

I checked out ThisIsUs on NBC because I'd enjoyed Justin Hartley on Y&R, and heard he was doing a primetime show.

Sterling K. Brown soon became one of my favorite actors of all time, and I began to follow his work.  And also began to follow Susan Kelechi Watson and Ron Cephas Jones as well (and was so sorry to learn that RCJ passed away in 2023).
I checked out Justin Hartley's newer show Tracker but it's not half the quality that ThisIsUs was.

I checked out Queen Sugar on OWN (and didn't have OWN so purchased it on amazon), and then rewatched the whole series on Hulu.
I started watching Queen Sugar because I'd enjoyed Greg Vaughan on DAYS, and heard he was doing a primetime/cable/streaming/whatever show.
It's not that Greg Vaughan was a highlight, it's simply that I learned about Queen Sugar because I'd seen him on Days.

Rutina Wesley, Tina Lifford, and Kofi Siriboe from Queen Sugar became actors I respected,  and will follow them in other work they do. (well, most of the cast, but especially those three)

There are a zillion shows on primetime/cable/streaming, so I don't have any way to sort through all the announcements of all those zillion shows.
In both cases, actors from daytime soaps (Y&R and DAYS) drew me to watch amazing shows (ThisIsUs and QueenSugar) which I wouldn't have known about otherwise. 
I think I'd categorize both as nighttime soaps but with serious thought-provoking ideas as well as romance and family stuff.

And from that, I began to follow the Black actors from ThisIsUs and QueenSugar.

I honestly don't remember how ThisIsUs was promoted but I think the promotion was more mainstream due it being on NBC, articles on the usual industry sites plus some televised interviews.  And an intriguing promo that caught my attention.

QueenSugar was promoted by Oprah Winfrey.  Not sure how the mainstream TV press covered it.

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2 minutes ago, janea4old said:

In both cases, actors from daytime soaps (Y&R and DAYS) drew me to watch amazing shows (ThisIsUs and QueenSugar) which I wouldn't have known about otherwise. 
I think I'd categorize both as nighttime soaps but with serious thought-provoking ideas as well as romance and family stuff.

That's because some problems are just universal once people can see beyond black, white, gay, straight or whatever arbitrary category people may place others in. Val Jean clearly understands this from interviews and is clearly pushing for it.

However, the issue will always be to get people to give a show a shot in the first place - clearly you might've walked into Queen Sugar because of Vaughan, but clearly stayed because storylines, characters and actors connected to you in a personal sense. And that's what the promotion for Beyond the Gates needs to realistically achieve - get people to give it a chance for whatever reason, but stay for the drama and because they suddenly connect to characters they might not have expected to.  

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10 minutes ago, LostinHarmony said:

ESSENCE just did a story on Beyond the Gates for its audience with this extended trailer. I didn't see this posted here yet so I thought I'd share.

omg yessss

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16 minutes ago, LostinHarmony said:

ESSENCE just did a story on Beyond the Gates for its audience with this extended trailer. I didn't see this posted here yet so I thought I'd share.

MUCH MUCH BETTER. WHERE THE HELL WERE THEY HIDING THIS PROMO. ANDRE IS SEDUCING DANI. OH MY. THANKS FOR THIS.

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22 minutes ago, LostinHarmony said:

ESSENCE just did a story on Beyond the Gates for its audience with this extended trailer. I didn't see this posted here yet so I thought I'd share.

This was the best one yet!

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"I fell in love with an inconvenient man."

"Now you have to deal with the inconvenient consequences."

Omg, I'm so ready for this show, I haven't been this excited regarding soaps in a very long time!

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1 minute ago, AbcNbc247 said:

This was the best one yet!

You better believe it, and it's EXACTLY what I was waiting for.

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So Dani is the star of the show, right?

She is the star in every promo.

BTW the show looks amazing! Can't wait!

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