Members Khan Posted January 7, 2024 Members Share Posted January 7, 2024 Ironically, I think a major reason why SaBa told their rape story was to take a swipe at Laura's rape on GH. But the twist of having her rapist turn out to be her gynecologist was just so tasteless that it ruined the rest of the story for me. Only a man (Chuck Pratt?) would think that would be an okay way to wrap up a rape story. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Contessa Donatella Posted January 7, 2024 Author Members Share Posted January 7, 2024 They definitely were on message their rape vs. Luke raping Laura, yes, that's clear. Been articles about it, etc. NLG tribute to Bridget on her IG Please register in order to view this content 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 1974mdp Posted January 7, 2024 Members Share Posted January 7, 2024 I think a great example of this was killing off the character of Mary. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Khan Posted January 7, 2024 Members Share Posted January 7, 2024 Exactly! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Contessa Donatella Posted January 7, 2024 Author Members Share Posted January 7, 2024 Oh, but, it is such black humor. Who would kill off a character by having a giant letter C fall on them? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BetterForgotten Posted January 7, 2024 Members Share Posted January 7, 2024 She’s probably not kidding either - I get the sense Julia was who NLG wishes she could be in real life… 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Khan Posted January 7, 2024 Members Share Posted January 7, 2024 I know NLG can be exasperating sometimes, too, but she's another actor who never bores me. IMO, she was BORN to play Julia. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Contessa Donatella Posted January 7, 2024 Author Members Share Posted January 7, 2024 I concur. I am wondering if she has left UglyX. I loved that Sara Bibel said as a child she wanted to grow up to be Bridget. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members teplin Posted January 7, 2024 Members Share Posted January 7, 2024 Agreed. That was just a perfect melding of character and actress. And Julia-Lane Davies Mason remains one of my favorite soap pairings. I think the Dobsons' Santa Barbara had (many) moments of sheer brilliance sandwiched in between a fair amount of substandard material, and the inconsistency was its downfall. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members All My Shadows Posted January 7, 2024 Members Share Posted January 7, 2024 I love this assessment of Rita, and I agree. Another character that comes to mind is Peyton Place's Betty Anderson, in the early years at least. Those women live in their own minds, and you never really "know" them, if that makes sense. There's always a feeling of they're trying the best they can to "be good," but their very valid needs and desires are in conflict with what people think is "good" for them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Contessa Donatella Posted January 7, 2024 Author Members Share Posted January 7, 2024 ME TOO! Also that they had an absurd corporate WAR in the middle of the show's run. No show could get past how horrible that is, overall. I will never stop thinking that NBC was just totally foolish not to just fire Anne Howard Bailey. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SoapDope Posted January 8, 2024 Members Share Posted January 8, 2024 Jerome & Bridget Dobson writing for GL in the 1970's. Please register in order to view this content 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Contessa Donatella Posted January 8, 2024 Author Members Share Posted January 8, 2024 Babies! When we just celebrated an EON date I posted a picture of Sharon Rose Gabet that is the youngest I've ever seen, so of course she came to the forum that day. She said she calls pictures like that "Baby Raven". We had a good laugh. Same has happened in the past with very very young pix of Maureen Garrett & of Ellen Wheeler. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Khan Posted January 8, 2024 Members Share Posted January 8, 2024 LD was fortunate to have two great pairings on SaBa: one, with Harley Jane Kozak's Mary; the other, with NLG's Julia. Sweet Mary was such a delicious contrast to tortured Mason, while Julia stimulated him intellectually and sexually through 1930's-style wit while keeping his ego in check. I agree! The thing is, if SaBa had been more consistent - if the writers had taken more care to craft solid storylines and not just great episodes (that could help them win more Emmys) - would the show have been as special? I think you could glimpse some of what I mean in the final year with Pamela K. Long as HW. For the first time in I-didn't-know-when, SaBa was making a concerted effort to be more traditional and tell long-term stories with impact - B.J.'s sexual abuse tale comes to mind - but in the process, a lot of the quirks and eccentricities that had come to define SaBa were evaporating. Even Mason and Julia weren't as delightfully screwball as they had been before. It does, and you are absolutely correct, @All My Shadows! Man! Now I'm wishing (again!) for someone to reboot/revive/re-whatever PP for a streaming outlet! As iconic as the original series was, I think it's the kind of property - locale, characters, overall themes, etc. - that would play just as well today with modern audiences as it did back in the '50's and '60's. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Khan Posted January 8, 2024 Members Share Posted January 8, 2024 Another anti-heroine who fits that bill (IMO)? EON's Raven. Especially in the beginning, before Sky Whitney gave her what she wanted most: someone who loved her and understood her needs, but never wanted to tie her down. (That brief monologue she gives about how she came to re-naming herself is just so good, lol). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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