10 minutes ago, Michael said:

They've gone back and forth sooooo many times. In 2002-03, Sami had gotten to a good place with John, and then JER returned and she randomly hated him again. The way I see it now, it doesn't take much for something to re-ignite her fury at him -- like when she caught him and Paul "digging up Will's grave," but after Marlena got shot at the wedding and almost died and Belle was foaming at the mouth to pull the plug, Sami and John seemed to have gotten to a better place.

But then she flip flopped again (I can't remember why) and was screaming at John when he had his aneurism.   It the same with her rivalry with Belle which never existed until it suddenly did with Ron lol.  I think John and Sami are in an okay place, but she was naming her child after him several years ago and I don't think they are back to that place.

2 minutes ago, carolineg said:

But then she flip flopped again (I can't remember why) and was screaming at John when he had his aneurism.   It the same with her rivalry with Belle which never existed until it suddenly did with Ron lol.  I think John and Sami are in an okay place, but she was naming her child after him several years ago and I don't think they are back to that place.

I completely forgot about that aneurysm thing (which never got resolved, right?)! Good grief.

Were Johnny and Allie born when John was briefly "dead" in 2007? That might've tainted Sami's judgment when she named the kid, LOL.

1 minute ago, Michael said:

I completely forgot about that aneurysm thing (which never got resolved, right?)! Good grief.

Were Johnny and Allie born when John was briefly "dead" in 2007? That might've tainted Sami's judgment when she named the kid, LOL.

Yeah, John was dead at the time.   So I do get that.  I just remember John/Sami truly burying the hatchet before J&M's 1999 wedding with several good scenes and it goes from one end to the other.   Sami/Stan getting John hooked on drugs being the other end ha ha. 

I can't remember if the aneurysm story was resolved.  I think John just stopped having those rage attacks at some point?

2 hours ago, Michael said:

I think the way they introduced Alex -- even apart from the casting, which obviously irritated many people -- was just way, way too heavy-handed. I know they wanted to set him apart from Ben, but the wardrobe, the glasses (and the constant chewing on them), the lounging-around-in-his-great-uncle's-living-room-naked-with-Sloan... it just all felt very "Look how much this COOL GUY loves SEX!!!!" to me. Add to that the limp, forced pairing with Stephanie -- which entailed him bumping into her once, becoming "besotted" with her (which looked more like stalker-y obsession), and then him having to learn the basic concept of sexual harassment -- plus the inconsistencies about his upbringing, which have made it tough to get a handle on the guy because we're unclear on whether Adrienne raised him, if he was ever close to Anjelica, whether or not he and Stephanie were raised as cousins, etc. And I hate this forced rivalry with Maggie and him having to call her "Auntie" every 30 seconds despite never having met this woman before last summer.

 @j swift

On point!👍

Finally, finished today's episode - exciting finale, but a bit frustrating

Why would the marshal's first assumption be that Lani was using drugs?

I know this episode was filmed last winter, but why is Rafe wearing a jacket while Whitley hauls out her deadly space heater in July?

I give it a 6/10

 

Edited July 25, 20232 yr by j swift

10 hours ago, j swift said:

I still believe that is debatable, because the character of Alex is interesting on paper.  Few other soaps have a guy who is openly interested in three ways sex, while exploring issues regarding intimacy in therapy.  The closest I recall was early Ryan Lavery on AMC.

And, you can't go more than a week without someone wishing for the return of a legacy character.  Everyone who doesn't watch, but still comments, suggests saving the show by proposing the return of some obscure child character that nobody's thought of in decades, as if Sarah Horton set the world on fire.

Which leads me to think that there are other variables at play - if only for the purpose of a lively debate amongst fans, no ill will intended aka no tea, no shade...

I just felt like it was too much for Alex, when it comes to writing. Instead of having fans start coming around to him gradually, Ron and co. just shoved him down our throats. And in my experience, a lot of soap fans don’t like that. I know I don’t lol it makes me want to do the exact opposite.

And, agreed with what @Michael said about the rewrite of his connection to Adrienne and the Johnsons. Up until this point, for all intents and purposes, Alex was raised as Adrienne’s son. And he and Stephanie would have been raised as cousins. In 2017, Angelica said that he didn’t even speak to her.

 I also think it’s fair to ask, would Alex have been shoved down our throats like this if it had been anyone but RSW playing the role? 

Edited July 25, 20232 yr by AbcNbc247

Again, with Nicole’s hairstyle 😂😂

This Brady/Kristen stuff is still stupid. Why would Kristen back up her demon spawn’s statement? Wouldn’t that open herself to investigation or implicate herself? It’s time they move onto something else in this story.

I did like the Sloan/Trask scenes today The two of them (and Jada too) really need someone to talk to and I hope they continue to have that with each other. Tripp/Wendy mentoring Li was nice too. 

I’m also intrigued by the EJ’s DNA arc of that storyline. This could go in so many different directions and I hope it isn’t squandered. 

Edited July 25, 20232 yr by AbcNbc247

11 minutes ago, AbcNbc247 said:

 

I’m also intrigued by the EJ’s DNA arc of that storyline. This could go in so many different directions and I hope it isn’t squandered. 

I'm assuming the truth will come out because of it.

Spoiler

Eric finds out about Sloan betrayal. Sloan loses baby and switches it with Nicole's since Eric is the father.

I ff through most of it. It was pure filler episode.

Do you think there was a reason the writing of EJ Dimera on the bag was smudged or was that a prop mistake?  Lol can't be too sure with the budget.

Also, what kind of matchmaker sets up the same people two days in row by mistake?  

Do we think this is happening concurrently to the Abe/Lani/Whitley stuff?  Or is it a different day?  Because Belle, Eric, and Brady don't seem to care Marlena almost died because of a nutty patient and Nicole didn't seem to know Abe was alive.

5 hours ago, Soapsuds said:

I'm assuming the truth will come out because of it.

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Eric finds out about Sloan betrayal. Sloan loses baby and switches it with Nicole's since Eric is the father.

I ff through most of it. It was pure filler episode.

I actually didn’t mind much of the filler today. It’s always good to get a little character development 😂

As for the spoiler, I hope not lol 

Edited July 25, 20232 yr by AbcNbc247

13 minutes ago, carolineg said:

Also, what kind of matchmaker sets up the same people two days in row by mistake?  

Also, Li has tech specialist as his sister, why isn't he using a dating app that requires pictures?

On 7/21/2023 at 7:05 PM, Michael said:

Yeah, they could really use a bar a la the Cheatin' Heart or a café like Java Cafe or Dot Com (but, uh, update the name either way). I'm glad they're using the Bistro a little more, but a fine-dining type of place has been missing for a long time, too. Everyone's always slurping down chowder at the Pub or eating at that one table in the Town Square.

I'm a few days late to the discussion, but I was always under the assumption that the Brady Pub was very close to the pier. So close that sometimes you would even hear that random bell chime outside the pub that you would also hear as background noise on the pier. 

Is the Brady Pub supposed to be on the same lot where the Fish Market was? 

Meanwhile, the Cheatin' Heart used to be in the sleazy part of town, but in the last 15 years of its constant turnover in restaurants (A coffee shop, Club TBD, Julie's newest restaurant that looks like a breakfast joint for seniors), the area seems to have been gentrified. 

 

Edited July 25, 20232 yr by Gray Bunny

3 minutes ago, j swift said:

Also, Li has tech specialist as his sister, why isn't he using a dating app that requires pictures?

Are there dating apps that exist without pictures these days 😂

2 minutes ago, Gray Bunny said:

Is the Brady Pub supposed to be on the same lot where the Fish Market was? 

Yes, the fish market got destroyed somehow (I want to say something to do with the Torres crime family) and John had it rebuilt into Shawn's dream of a pub making Roman mad.

15 minutes ago, Gray Bunny said:

Meanwhile, the Cheatin' Heart used to be in the sleazy part of town, but in the last 15 years of its constant turnover in restaurants (A coffee shop, Club TBD, Julie's newest restaurant that looks like a breakfast joint for seniors), the area seems to have been gentrified. 

 

I think that was Victor’s doing. When he first came to Salem, he started buying up all the property on the riverfront. Almost put the fish market out of business 😂

Edited July 25, 20232 yr by AbcNbc247

I know Paulina was convinced not to bulldoze the square, but does she still own an interest in the property there.  If so, that new police commissioner was awfully dumb to talk crap about Paulina and Chanel.  I know she's in crisis, but Price Town seems to run itself.  I mean, Maggie works twice as hard as a business owner.