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Apple TV+ currently has every season of the show for $4.99. That comes out to $35 for the entire series digitally.

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The Golden Girls key episodes by ratings

September 14, 1985: The Engagement (series premiere), rating 25.0, #1

Season highs

February 22, 1986: Adult Education, rating 25.2

October 4, 1986: Ladies of the Evening, rating 27.3

November 8, 1986: Isn't it Romantic, rating 27.3

February 6, 1988: My Brother, My Father; rating 24.6

November 26, 1988: Sophia's Wedding (Part 2), rating 24.3, #1

September 23, 1989: Sick and Tired (Part 1) (season 5 premiere), rating 23.5

January 12, 1991: Sisters of the Bride, rating 19.3

May 9, 1992: One Flew Out of the Cuckoo's Nest (series finale), rating 18.9

Season lows

October 19, 1985: The Triangle, rating 18.6

May 16, 1987: Empty Nests (season 2 finale), rating 17.8

February 20, 1988: And Ma Makes Three, rating 18.0

April 29, 1989: Rites of Spring, rating 18.7

April 28, 1990: All Bets are Off, rating 15.8

February 16, 1991: Older and Wiser, rating 11.6

October 26, 1991: Mother Load, rating 10.9

Ten highest-rated episodes

October 4, 1986: Ladies of the Evening, rating 27.3

November 8, 1986: Isn't it Romantic, rating 27.3

January 3, 1987: The Sisters, rating 27.0

November 22, 1986: Family Affair, rating 26.8

January 10, 1987: The Stan Who Came to Dinner, rating 26.6

January 24, 1987: Before and After, rating 26.4

February 28, 1987: Whose Face is This, Anyway?; rating 25.8

September 27, 1986: End of the Curse (season 2 premiere), rating 25.6

November 15, 1986: Big Daddy's Little Lady, rating 25.3

February 22, 1986: Adult Education, rating 25.2

Ten lowest-rated episodes

October 26, 1991: Mother Load, rating 10.9

September 28, 1991: The Case of the Libertine Belle, rating 10.9

October 19, 1991: Where's Charlie?, rating 11.0

February 15, 1992: Ebbtide VI: The Wrath of Stan, rating 11.3

February 16, 1991: Older and Wiser, rating 11.6

December 14, 1991: The Pope's Ring, rating 11.7

April 25, 1992: Home Again, Rose (Part 1); rating 12.3

October 5, 1991: Beauty and the Beast, rating 12.7

November 2, 1991: Dateline: Miami, rating 12.7

December 7, 1991: From Here to the Pharmacy, rating 12.8

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I'm not at all surprised the 10 lowest-rated episodes are all from Season Seven. Moving The Golden Girls from 9 p.m. to 8 p.m. was foolish.

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The Saturday 8pm slot usually had the lowest rating of the NBC 4 sitcom lineup for some reason.

NBC let Saturday night fizzle, They used 9.30 pm to launch 227 and Amen, both of which moved to earlier in the evening but they  kept Empty Nest following GG for several seasons. 

Empty Nest should have moved to 8pm with their strongest new sitcom at 9.30, anticipating that GG would eventually falter.

Instead they left them there and stretching the sitcom pool too thinly on other nights. When Grand talk over at 9.30 Thurs maybe Night Court and Wings could have been used on Saturday.

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Speaking of Bea vs. Betty, Marc Cherry recently revealed that one of the legendary bits of lore is fiction. Bea didn't actually go to the bathroom on Betty's dressing room floor. The writers made that up as a joke, and somehow it became public.

Side note: that type of revenge dates at least as far back as Bob Randall's 1976 novel The Fan, which became the 1981 Lauren Bacall-Michael Biehn flick.

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Can't say I'm surprised re Bea Arthur/Betty White beef. Watch Betty White 1986 Emmy win and when the camera pans to Bea Arthur she does not look happy.

Oddly enough, Bea Arthur was close friends with Angela Lansbury and they seem like the two most unlikely people to have a friendship. From what I've seen online, their friendship began when they both starred in the 1966 Broadway production of Mame and lasted until Bea's death.

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Sometimes two personalities just don't go together, without it being anyone's fault. Whatever they felt about each other privately I haven't heard anything about it interfering with their work on The Golden Girls, so they were obviously both professional enough to keep their personal feelings out of it.

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What is interesting is that Rue allegedly said the same thing about Betty. I think Bea gets most of the blame and many are deferential to Betty. Now Rue allegedly did not like her. And Betty making fun of Estelle's memory is rather nasty. It was great show and they all won Emmys. I say let it all go. It is work. You do not have to like a coworker to get the job done.

 

 

 

https://nypost.com/2025/06/20/entertainment/golden-girls-feud-between-betty-white-bea-arthur-revealed/

 

Arthur’s alleged c-word remarks about White have surfaced before. During a 2022 episode of The Originals podcast, the show’s casting director, Joel Thurm, said, “Literally Bea Arthur, who I cast in something else later on, just said, ‘Oh, she’s a f–king c–t,’ using that word [about White].”

“Bea Arthur called Betty White a c-word?” podcast host Andrew Goldman asked at the time.

Bea Arthur, Betty White, and Estelle Getty at the 48th Golden Apple Awards.
Bea Arthur, Betty White and Estelle Getty during 48th Golden Apple Awards at Beverly Wilshire Hotel in Beverly Hills, Calif., in 1988.Ron Galella Collection via Getty Images
 

“Yeah, she called her the c-word. I mean, I heard that with my own ears,” Thurm alleged. “And by the way, so did Rue McClanahan. Rue McClanahan said it to me in Joe Allen’s [restaurant]; Bea Arthur [when she was] on the set of ‘Beggars and Choosers.’ ”

Thurm recalled how Getty — who died from Lewy body dementia — began having issues memorizing her lines on set.

“And she would write the lines on her hand, and … Betty White would make fun of her in front of the live audience,” he said. “That may seem like a minor transgression, but it really does get to you … I have no idea how Estelle Getty felt, but I know the other two did not like [White] at all.”

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On 6/21/2025 at 3:20 PM, I Am A Swede said:

Sometimes two personalities just don't go together, without it being anyone's fault. Whatever they felt about each other privately I haven't heard anything about it interfering with their work on The Golden Girls, so they were obviously both professional enough to keep their personal feelings out of it.

I agree.  I mean, Betty also worked for years on "The Mary Tyler Moore Show;" and from what I've heard, neither MTM nor the rest of her cast and crew were the type to put up with c**ts (although, I do recall reading about some tense rehearsals over on the "Rhoda" set, lol).

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On 6/19/2025 at 9:17 PM, Franko said:

Speaking of Bea vs. Betty, Marc Cherry recently revealed that one of the legendary bits of lore is fiction. Bea didn't actually go to the bathroom on Betty's dressing room floor. The writers made that up as a joke, and somehow it became public.

Side note: that type of revenge dates at least as far back as Bob Randall's 1976 novel The Fan, which became the 1981 Lauren Bacall-Michael Biehn flick.

People really believed Bea Arthur used Betty White's dressing room floor as a toilet. How sad. Kenneth Anger is shaking his head somewhere.

As for these stories, I can believe Betty White had her issues, as many do. I know Sally Struthers had her own story. I just don't get any pleasure out of muckraking over corpses the way these GG personnel are doing. It feels a bit crass to me, especially since GG is one of those shows where I give the cast much more of the credit for the show than anyone else (I think the show should have ended about 2-3 seasons before it did).

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9 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

People really believed Bea Arthur used Betty White's dressing room floor as a toilet. How sad. Kenneth Anger is shaking his head somewhere.

As for these stories, I can believe Betty White had her issues, as many do. I know Sally Struthers had her own story. I just don't get any pleasure out of muckraking over corpses the way these GG personnel are doing. It feels a bit crass to me, especially since GG is one of those shows where I give the cast much more of the credit for the show than anyone else (I think the show should have ended about 2-3 seasons before it did).

Desperate, too. It's like some folks just don't trust that their stars and show could (will?) have a legacy beyond degrading anecdotes.

On 6/23/2025 at 11:49 AM, Khan said:

I agree.  I mean, Betty also worked for years on "The Mary Tyler Moore Show;" and from what I've heard, neither MTM nor the rest of her cast and crew were the type to put up with c**ts (although, I do recall reading about some tense rehearsals over on the "Rhoda" set, lol).

Oh, please don't tell me Valerie Harper & Julie Kavner ended up having beef!

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18 minutes ago, Franko said:

Desperate, too. It's like some folks just don't trust that their stars and show could (will?) have a legacy beyond degrading anecdotes.

That's exactly what happened to the Brady Bunch. 

At least the Golden Girls ladies had the sense to not peddle this tabloid trash. 

The show means a lot to generations around the world, and the people who worked on the show instead only want to talk about who called who a [!@#$%^&*] and who didn't [!@#$%^&*] on the floor.

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I reached the 'Who Cares?' point with shoveling these old ashes at least a decade ago. They put on a wonderful show, did great work and frankly, besides Bea/Betty vs. each other I have my doubts they all despised each other that much vs. what people keep dining out on now. I'm not throwing Rue into it. In any event, I'm over it.

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