OWN - The Kings of Napa

[kalbir]

‘The Kings Of Napa’: OWN Reveals Premiere Date & First Teaser – Deadline

I'm getting an Empire with grapes feeling from this.

[Faulkner]

Empire with a dash of Falcon Crest. It definitely looks beautiful.

[Faulkner]

There’s a VERY similar series with a Latino wine family coming to ABC in January:

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[Planet Soap]

Definately  Falcon Crest ^2. Plus there's "Our Kind of People" on Fox which has similar themes but with haircare instead if wine. 

[kalbir]

'The Kings of Napa' Premieres Tuesday, January 11th (oprah.com)

[ChitHappens]

I'm in!  

[slick jones]

I'm in as well, taping it late night to watch in the a.m.

[ChitHappens]

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Missed the last 15 minutes and will watch again tonight but I'm not smelling what these people have cooked.  It was dull and a huge reveal that should have taken a few eppies to build happened in the middle of the show like it was a comedy skit.  It didn't move me and that's a shame because the lead, a beautiful dark skinned woman, is a good actress and fits the role.  We don't get that often with these shows.  I was also happy that a little person was in a lead role with a gorgeous English wife who supports him no matter what.  I will keep my expectations to a reasonable level until I drop this show.  

[te.]

Bombed in the ratings. 253k viewers and 0.04 in the A18-49 demographic.

[kalbir]

I wasn't impressed. This season has not been good for primetime soaps. Our Kind of People and Queens are both flops, let's see what Promised Land will be like.

[Planet Soap]

To my surprise Queens was actually decent, much better than Our Kind of People. It just can't find an audience though.

One thing I believe daytime used to better at than prime time is slowly building up a continuous plot. Primetime serial dramas like Riverdale seam to eat through plot way too rapidly. Primetime soaps seem to be limited to romance, business and occasionally crime storylines where as daytime gives you a variety of melodramatic plots.

Edited January 13, 2022 by ironlion

[Soaplovers]

If you look at 80s primetime soaps like Dallas and Knots Landing...they had various plotlines at different places and there were slow builds.

I think for a primetime soap to work, you need a soap writer in the writing room that understands pacing and payoffs. 

Queens had potential, but burned through soap plots too quickly 

[slick jones]

The pilot was wayyyy to full of plotlines, but I'm liking the show.