After the NYT, among others, was involved in polling that proved yet again to be inaccurate (this time for the NY-03 special election), always-reliable Nate Cohn is there to spin it in just the right(-wing) way.

 

Cohn is nothing if not consistent in being wrong.

Speaking of The Times, isn’t this special (*inserts sarcasm*).

https://news.yahoo.com/terrorists-paying-check-marks-x-185418291.html

4 hours ago, DramatistDreamer said:

Cohn is nothing if not consistent in being wrong.

Speaking of The Times, isn’t this special (*inserts sarcasm*).

https://news.yahoo.com/terrorists-paying-check-marks-x-185418291.html

Yeah this is not shocking knowing Musk, but why is Iran and Russia on that list. Sure we all know the state outlets for these countries are pure propaganda, but does that mean they get sanctioned by twitter. It's not like we don't have news outlets in the US that push propaganda on a regular basis all over social media.

29 minutes ago, JaneAusten said:

Yeah this is not shocking knowing Musk, but why is Iran and Russia on that list. Sure we all know the state outlets for these countries are pure propaganda, but does that mean they get sanctioned by twitter. It's not like we don't have news outlets in the US that push propaganda on a regular basis all over social media.

Something tells me that the likes of The New York Times and its ilk do not want to truly have that conversation (*coughs Fox News Channel*).

If you see more morons telling you how liberal MSNBC is:

 

^^Sometimes it’s just really inappropriate to be trying to play devil’s advocate. Tur really is doing the entire profession of journalism a disservice by asking these types of questions.

 

The smile when the NPR hack claims that Trump is behaving "normally" is one of the clearest reminders I've seen of just how dirty and complicit the Beltway is. They are still, after a decade, here to tell us that Trump is normal and in the center.

 

Edited February 20, 20241 yr by DRW50

On 2/7/2024 at 2:52 PM, DramatistDreamer said:

It’s anyone’s guess what will come of this.

ESPN, Fox and Warner Team Up to Create Sports-Streaming Platform

A follow up to this story. Fubo (has anyone used this service?) is suing, citing antitrust violations.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/fubotv-files-lawsuit-disney-warner-fox-sports-streaming-platform-1235830781/

On 2/20/2024 at 1:49 PM, DRW50 said:

The smile when the NPR hack claims that Trump is behaving "normally" is one of the clearest reminders I've seen of just how dirty and complicit the Beltway is. They are still, after a decade, here to tell us that Trump is normal and in the center.

 

Some of you really need to stop looking at any of the Beltway media as it relates to abortion. 1. They barely talk about it.  2. They pretend that a 16 week ban is viable - exactly what data do they think women are looking at to sacrifice our rights? 

They barely talk about it and when they do it's stupidity like this. Pay attention to elections and ignore these people. And if folks don't think that had an impact on the changes in Wisconsin also they are high. They want to continue to pretend this is not a big issue. It is the number one issue.

I agree. The Beltway has always been trying to make the last few years about something they want it to be vs. what it is.

8 minutes ago, Vee said:

I agree. The Beltway has always been trying to make the last few years about something they want it to be vs. what it is.

And at this point, these media outlets care very little that they continually get things wrong.

3 minutes ago, DramatistDreamer said:

And at this point, these media outlets care very little that they continually get things wrong.

Seriously. Why do people continue to pay attention.  I will never forget the Friday before the 2022 midterms when all Joe Scarborough and his klan were doing on that show was spelling doomsday for the democrats in the midterms and how it was all about crime. And it was all about abortion as it will continue to be.  Is it because it's a womens issue - have no clue. I do know who runs the media so that may very well be the truth.

59 minutes ago, JaneAusten said:

Some of you really need to stop looking at any of the Beltway media as it relates to abortion. 1. They barely talk about it.  2. They pretend that a 16 week ban is viable - exactly what data do they think women are looking at to sacrifice our rights? 

The reason I brought this up is not because I think the media has a great hold on the public with abortion conversation (2022 proved that) but because it's another example of how the media has gone out of its way to try to wishcast Trump as mainstream and a sensible conservative for the last 8-9 years. I do think that still has an impact, much as I wish it didn't. There are so many stupid people, and people like Jon Stewart, Bill Maher, Colin Jost, a million NYT/Washington Post reporters, what have you, who are well-paid to be stupid, who parrot both sides, why bother for change mentality.

Edited February 21, 20241 yr by DRW50

1 hour ago, DRW50 said:

The reason I brought this up is not because I think the media has a great hold on the public with abortion conversation (2022 proved that) but because it's another example of how the media has gone out of its way to try to wishcast Trump as mainstream and a sensible conservative for the last 8-9 years. I do think that still has an impact, much as I wish it didn't. There are so many stupid people, and people like Jon Stewart, Bill Maher, Colin Jost, a million NYT/Washington Post reporters, what have you, who are well-paid to be stupid, who parrot both sides, why bother for change mentality.

Oh sorry don't think I was being critical of you posting that information. I think it's valuable to know what these folks are saying but it's not resonating. And on what wavelength do you think Bill Maher, Colin Jost, and even Jon Stewart has influence. I have talked to actual women who vote and are voting in 2024. I am working again with NARAL and am talking to independent and suburban GOP women.  None of what these men are saying represent how most women feel. I guarantee you this has nothing to do with 16 weeks, 20 weeks or whatever, women are not thinking about compromise. They are thinking their freedoms have been taken away period. 

Bill Maher really? Who on earth listens to him about abortion or Colin Jost. No women I know or have talked to. Listen I love Jon Stewart, but this is not the same world he performed in on the Daily Show. People in the millions are not watching Comedy Central for him.

I'm honestly tired of having to defend this issue as important to mostly men who don't understand how women view this. Apparently, that includes people posting here. Good lord even Mika Brezinksi is finally talking about abortion as a healthcare issue and that was a long time coming for her. She finally gets how women view this. 

And just a note. The media was wrong about that election in NY.  My neice lives in that district and said it was never close. Tom Suozzi is a long time resident, respected, and well liked. There was never a chance he was going to lose. And according to her had he run in 2022 he would have won the seat. Holy hell, democrats can win every gosh darn special election, and we are still behind the 8 ball.

Edited February 21, 20241 yr by JaneAusten