Members ChitHappens Posted January 25, 2018 Members Share Posted January 25, 2018 It has always troubled me that POC have been left out of this pay gap movement so I was beyond delightful to see someone use their privilege to right these egregious wrongs! Chastain will forever be overrated to me but she gets major kudos! Octavia will now get 5 xs her rate for the upcoming project with Chastain! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Khan Posted January 25, 2018 Members Share Posted January 25, 2018 On the one hand, it's good to see Chastain "walk the walk," as OS put it. But, OTOH, why is it always up to some kind, well-meaning, white "limousine liberal" to do even one of us a favor? IDK, it just leaves a slightly sour taste in my mouth to know that, once again, a Black person (and a woman, at that) owes a White person (and another woman, at that) a debt of gratitude. But that's just something I need to work through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ChitHappens Posted January 25, 2018 Author Members Share Posted January 25, 2018 Because no one wants to jump on a movement that benefits POC. The #MeToo was all about white women not wanting to be sexually assaulted and wanting equal pay while ignoring how much lower POC are paid and assaulted. Like men are expected to stand up and help make changes to make things better for [white]women, white America has to step to the plate to help out POC, especially since they're the oppressors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JaneAusten Posted January 25, 2018 Members Share Posted January 25, 2018 Actually #metoo was started by Tarana Burke a WoC over 10 years ago and was hijacked. She's been credited in the media since but Time neglected to include her in their cover. In 2006, Tarana Burke, founder and director of Just Be Inc. and senior director of Girls for Gender Equity, founded the program me too Movement. Its goal is to empower young women of color who have been sexually abused, assaulted, or exploited, women from marginalized communities. These are the women missing from media discussions of celebrity cases such as Harvey Weinstein, Matt Lauer, and Louis C.K. They are the survivors of sexual harassment and assault that occur in ordinary work spaces, or schools, churches, homes of friends or family members, or the streets of their neighborhoods. But they lack the resources, class status, or even the acceptable skin color to have their stories told. You can read more about it here. http://www.yesmagazine.org/people-power/me-too-creator-tarana-burke-reminds-us-this-is-about-black-and-brown-survivors-20180104 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ChitHappens Posted January 25, 2018 Author Members Share Posted January 25, 2018 Oh, I totally understand who initiated it but Hollywood hijacked it so that white women could get justice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Khan Posted January 26, 2018 Members Share Posted January 26, 2018 And, you see, that -- the fact that the #MeToo movement has been hijacked by white women -- pisses me the hell off as well. A WOC began the movement, and white America basically gave no [!@#$%^&*]. But, let a bunch of Beckies with good hair and hurt feelings co-opt Ms. Burke's work as their own, and suddenly, all of us -- men and women, black and white -- are supposed to be all, "Yeah! Womyn rawk!" And you DO rock. Most of you do, anyway. But, you know, I'm with Luvvie: don't ask me to stand with you, white women, in my own pink !@#$%^&*] hat when 1) you've never made more than a minimal, begrudging effort to include us (meaning, all POC) at all the tables; and 2) I, personally, do not have the greatest history with or respect for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JaneAusten Posted January 26, 2018 Members Share Posted January 26, 2018 AMEN. This article about a WoC who decided not to go to this years women's march says it all https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/why-this-black-girl-will-not-be-returning-to-the-womens-march_us_5a3c1216e4b0b0e5a7a0bd4b This lack of intersectionality, with white women putting their interests first and not giving a darn about WoC goes back to the Suffragette movement. Look and see where that large Suffragette march in NYC in 1916 placed the black women. It hasn't changed since then. I do see some cracks in the surface, but the basic issue continues to be that white women will sell out to patriarchy far more easily than aligning with WoC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Khan Posted January 26, 2018 Members Share Posted January 26, 2018 LOVE this part: Ninety-four percent of black women voted for Hillary Clinton, yet here we all are at a march, protesting the person you put in office, and we can’t even get you to affirm that yes, black lives do matter. What hurts the most, though, is when women like my own mother, someone who has been perhaps the single biggest influence over my life, begin to listen to the usual, right-wing chuckleheads and think that, hey, maybe they had a point about HRC and Obama, "and why not ALL Lives Matter, instead of just Black ones?" I just don't have enough Jesus in me to fight the particular demon that has infected her soul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members YRBB Posted January 26, 2018 Members Share Posted January 26, 2018 Here she is discussing it: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ChitHappens Posted January 26, 2018 Author Members Share Posted January 26, 2018 When OS teared up, so did I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DramatistDreamer Posted January 26, 2018 Members Share Posted January 26, 2018 Jessica Chastain seems like a cool person and I'm glad she stepped up on behalf of Octavia Spencer. I'm hoping that the day will soon come when these actions will be unnecessary to get pay equity. Where studios and movie executives will recognize an actor that is both critically acclaimed and has provided big box office and pay her accordingly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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