Jump to content

Backstage Mysteries: Forever Unsolved


Recommended Posts

  • Members

Goutman at one point referred to Katie as "America's sweetheart" (vomit), so I imagine he had an exaggerated sense of the character's appeal. Maybe he wanted to connect her to the Hughes family, so that the audience would have to tolerate her...whether we could stomach her or not. The show making Nancy Hughes a supporting player to Katie's life also baffled me.

As for Alexandra Moltke, DS let her out of her contract because she was pregnant. She later said that she was stifled playing a good girl victim, who basically wandered around asking, "What's happening?" She said she would come back to the show if TPTB allowed her to play a "bad" girl (Victoria could have become possessed, for example), but the producers declined and so Moltke was out for good.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Replies 111
  • Created
  • Last Reply
  • Members

Sexual harassment. What that means exactly, I can't say. But allegedly, Maeve Kinkead was suing (or was going to sue) Rauch and P&G until the latter came up with the solution of transferring her to GL and creating the role of Vanessa for her. #grainofsalt

My guess? Depending on when this incident occurred, Jacqueline Courtney. I think OL and ABC had a lot riding on her and George Reinholt joining their show and were willing to accommodate them through any means necessary.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

My first thought was Courtney, too, which would explain Holly's decades-long bitterness towards her. She was still bad-mouthing Courtney during interviews for Jeff Gilles' book.

On the other hand, Linda Dano once gave an interview in which she spoke of joining OLTL, and how the rule was that everyone had to share a dressing room. Dano was put in with Courtney. Why would Courtney have to share accommodations with anyone else, but not Holly? I could see if the network had mandated that Courtney and Holly share Holly's room, when Courtney first joined the show, but not that Courtney take over the dressing room completely, and have a private space for herself while Holly had to change clothes in the hallway. That's just...weird.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

My heart goes out to Ellen Holly because she was so important to the show, she is a talented actor, and she deserved to be one of the pillars of OLTL. Her kids should have been just as front and center as Dorian or Viki's families. And I belive Rauch was terrible to her.

But she also makes my head hurt. I think she is determined to make everyone as awful as Rauch.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

The whole Maeve Kinkead/Paul Rauch thing was weird. At first, I thought it was just the die-hard Mattessa fans whining about anything and everything under the sun. But as you watched, you couldn't help but notice repeated digs at Vanessa's age, her diminishing looks, etc. From Beth Raines, to the Reva Clone, to the doctor performing Dinah's reconstructive surgery (after she got burned). It was too coincidental to be innocent.

I think she went recurring in 1999 and finally left for good in the summer of 2000, with Kurt McKinney disappearing soon after, once his contract expired.

However, she did return for GL's 50th television anniversary in June of 2002, when Rauch was still here. I guess Rauch could at least put aside his ego for the sake of the show every now 'n then.

P.S. She originally left in the summer of 1996, with the intention of taking a year off. This was before Rauch joined the show. She actually ended up returning sooner.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

I agree. As a vital, core, original cast member, Ellen Holly should have been central to the series as the decades passed. She was a wonderful actress, and her character was complex, layered, and interesting. I have no doubt that Raunch was terrible to her, and that she experienced bigotry within the industry, particularly in the 1960s and '70s, but her insistence that so many people were relentlessly abusive to her tends to...strain credibility. I cannot, for example, believe that Erika Slezak referred to Holly and the actress who played her mother as, "those black bitches!"

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

Alas, all of the truly great writers of the soap opera genre have either passed away, or moved away from daytime TV.

Why the networks don't recruit fresh new talent, and rely instead on tired hacks whose track record of failure cannot be denied, is another unsolved mystery! :(

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

I think OLTL may have actually tried to ask Ellen Holly back in 2011 before the show went off. That was a claim at one point, anyway, that she was on the wishlist. I assume she said no if it's true, as she had in 1992 or '93 for another anniversary event headed up by Linda Gottlieb. Then there was that whole horrific Geocities-esque website she did right before the show went off which called her entire tenure on the show a disgrace and heaped abuse on Agnes Nixon.

The real disgrace is how she was treated by the show early on. I don't believe every claim she makes or agree with everything she's said, but I think what became of her character was just awful and I'll always believe there was more they could've done. At least use the family, if she won't appear. You can reference her and talk about her through children and grandchildren.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

She should not have been marginalized. Her story made the success of the soap. People that watched the show back then (my grandmother did) still talk about that story because it was different and important. I can absolutely believe network executives and people on the show were uncomfortable with a black actress as the star of the show at that time and said and did terrible things to her during her tenure. I also think time has made her bitter to the point of hating everyone on the show. But I can't blame her.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

Titan, I actually think ATWT had more energy in its final months than Days does now, but that's just me. You hit the nail on the head with some of your comments.

I have to wonder if Days is the blind item about a power struggle. Someone connected with this show must know what it used to be about. The fiery spirit of the supercouples. The love stories. The romance. The intrigue. The drama.

It's almost like Tomlin or someone at NBC is saying, and pardon my French, "I know the viewers want people like Peter Reckell, Matt Ashford and Stephen Nichols back. I know they want the supercouples back, and I'll be goddamned if I give them their wish. The long-time fans can !@#$%^&*] off."

No one knows how to rescue this show and it's obvious.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.



  • Recent Posts

    • https://www.instagram.com/p/DJxpFaAp_UY/ Roman vs. Stefano, Cliff top, Beach Below This is one of the most important scenes on DAYS in the 80s. After this nothing was ever the same. DAYS 11-23-84   @JAS0N47Closing Credits roll & it's complete silence. Isn't that unusual?
    • Mack was the show's moral compass and his groundedness complimented Karen's hysteria perfectly. Also, Kevin Dobson was the best looking male cast member with a huge fan base. He was never going to be killed off...
    • As others (I think) have said, Long just didn't get Nola and Quint. I guess it would've been hard to write them into adventure type stories with two kids, but they just fell off the map after AJ's birth. (or even the wedding/honeymoon) Long would've had to rewrite something, because Alex forced the Chamberlains out of Spaulding in the fall of '84. Not that she couldn't have just ignored it and written Quint and Henry being involved at the firm. I swear there was some plot point she just literally ignored that surprised me, but as I'm floating around between years, I can't recall what it was. lol Has anyone found the first day of the Kyle/Lewis dinner party up in English? After he took over Lewis Oil, Kyle arranged a dinner party. All hell breaks loose--Mindy admits to shooting Kyle, Vanessa remembers Reva's accident, and Billy and Reva get into a screaming match and she tells HB that Billy blackmailed her out of her Lewis shares. The last three minutes (or so) of the episode are up, where Kyle tells the assembled that HB's his father. And the next episode picks up with Sally entering the fray. Y'all know I'm dying to hear Billy and Reva go at it. As dicey as '85 is, I love it anytime when Billy isn't Reva's bitch.  
    • The original premise of "Santa Barbara" was that a Lockridge (Warren) killed a Capwell (Channing), who loved an Andrade (Santana), while a Perkins (Joe) went to jail for the crime. I think once the show started to pull away the threads by eliminating Joe and naming a new killer a lot of the show's original potential was lost. I contend, like others, that the fault lied in the uninspiring casting, which leads me to wonder if that's why the show became so keen on casting soap veterans for nearly every pivotal role.  The failure of the Perkins family was definitely a casting issue followed by a lack of interest in committing to the original onscreen characterization. I was fascinated watching the early episodes and realizing that the Perkins had been financially wiped out by the trial, which was an underlying current towards John's animosity towards his son. Then, the additional complication of Marissa's nearly incestual affection for Joe that led to her cutting off John sexually was a wild moment to witness, but not as strong as it could have been with a stronger actor in the role of John Perkins. Melissa Brennan wasn't the right choice for the aspiring young vixen that Jade was intended to be. Brennan may have breathed life into Laken, but I'm not sure how Julia Ronnie would have done in the role of Jade.  Despite the recorded history, Christina Robertson and Sarah Gallagher weren't sisters; they were aunt and niece.  I don't think it would have hurt to make Marissa and Augusta sisters, but I think it would have made the Joe / Augusta seduction impossible unless you truly mimick "Rituals" and make Joe Sarah's stepson. I think a childhood friendship between the two women would have worked. It would have also given Augusta someone to confide in about the situation involving Peter Flint and herself as Marissa would have been aware of Peter from her work at the pre school. As childhood friends that were estranged by class differences, I think a relationship between Augusta and Joe (and later Augusta and a sexually frustrated John) would have had multiple layers to play out giving a deeper impact on Augusta's involvement in both of the men in Marissa's life. And because I have thought about this all too much, I would have Augusta and Marissa square off again when Jade, after marrying Ted while pregnant, learned that the little Capwell heir was in fact an imprisoned Warren's son only for Augusta to ultimately keep mum because with Ted married to Jade he wasn't free to pursue Laken.  I imagine the Andrades would have slowly been withdrawn from the Capwell inner circle as the truth about Santana, Channing, Jr., and the baby came to light for everyone. In what I seen in the 1980s, Rosa confronts C.C. once about the baby and then seems to move on. Early in the run, the actor playing Reuben claims he and Bridget Dobson had a falling out and implied that she was racist which led to the character fading into the woodwork.  I know I am like maybe one of two people who liked the 1990s run of the Dobsons, but I loved the set up for Santana / C.C. with the Andrades having owned the land that Oasis sat on years earlier posing Santana to come into money while also potentially landing a position where she could raise Gina's son with C.C. if C.C. and Santana could have secured custody of the child. With Eden gone, I would have gone back to Santana and Cruz, but if not, I think Brick should have returned to be Santana's conscience and potential love interest.     
    • Well, I'm not going to shoot you, so no worries there. If it's subpar i hate hearing that. It was an old DVD not even mine a former partner. I thought why not make use of it. Serves me right for thinking. But to be clear, white label, www.radiomemory.com 
    • Just compared the open on Friday's episode with the first week episodes. I think the difference is that the bass line is much more apparent -- stronger and harder.
    • Phew, that was close to disaster!

      Please register in order to view this content

      I suspect we would have had a few withdrawals next year if Israel had won. I don't think many people would relish going to Jerusalem as things stand now. Not to mention it would have been a prime target for terrorist attacks.   
    • And they've given us plenty. Sets, outdoor scenes, music licensing, etc. And that was the point of me using DAYS... so. It's obvious the casino set is not intended for long-term use, hence why it's likely it wasn't as evolved as the other community sets, etc.
    • Enjoy Errol!  Your guy! Teehee @Errol  

      Please register in order to view this content

×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

By using this site, you agree to our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy