58 minutes ago, BetterForgotten said:

Randy Jackson is openly MAGA btw….

This is stirring up such a hornet's nest in reviving all the old attacks against Harris, especially due to some who are going so far in attacking Janet, her family, etc. 

Edited September 23, 20241 yr by DRW50

1 hour ago, DRW50 said:

This is stirring up such a hornet's nest in reviving all the old attacks against Harris, especially due to some who are going so far in attacking Janet, her family, etc. 

Janet Jackson's widely mocked stupid opinions are not going to open up a major new vulnerability for Kamala Harris. I love Janet's music but online she is getting universally dragged outside the right wing for this and new polling has shown Trump has not been able to substantially capture the Black vote (as white pundits kept mythologizing), let's keep things in perspective.

20 minutes ago, Vee said:

Janet Jackson's widely mocked stupid opinions are not going to open up a major new vulnerability for Kamala Harris. I love Janet's music but online she is getting universally dragged outside the right wing for this and new polling has shown Trump has not been able to substantially capture the Black vote (as white pundits kept mythologizing), let's keep things in perspective.

I don't think it alone is enough to make a difference, I just think a thousand cuts tend to happen when Trump is involved. 

Long live Latoya!

1 hour ago, DRW50 said:

I don't think it alone is enough to make a difference, I just think a thousand cuts tend to happen when Trump is involved. 

Mostly to him these days.

43 minutes ago, Bright Eyes said:

Long live Latoya!

lol

8 hours ago, DRW50 said:

I don't think it alone is enough to make a difference, I just think a thousand cuts tend to happen when Trump is involved. 

The effect is absolutely negligible. It has caused people to question the Jackson’s relationship to their Blackness and the possibility of vulnerability to misinformation for people over 55 but that’s about it.

2 hours ago, DramatistDreamer said:

The effect is absolutely negligible. It has caused people to question the Jackson’s relationship to their Blackness and the possibility of vulnerability to misinformation for people over 55 but that’s about it.

I still remember when they said Michael was trying to be white by bleaching. Michael said it was some sort of skin issue.

I'm so disappointed in Penny Woods. Just like many gasped in disappointment as she stole the necklace at the store for Willona.

4 hours ago, Soapsuds said:

I still remember when they said Michael was trying to be white by bleaching. Michael said it was some sort of skin issue.

I'm so disappointed in Penny Woods. Just like many gasped in disappointment as she stole the necklace at the store for Willona.

Michael did indeed have vitiligo. It didn’t really explain why he felt the need to have such extreme plastic surgery though. I do try to show grace since both Michael and Janet did express how, at times, their looks were attacked by other family members (Janet even admitted that, as much as she loved Michael, he also was among those that taunted her about the size of her rear end, which was likely one of the aspects that set her on a path to equating her value with her weight).

The family was also raised as Jehovah’s Witnesses, which, although they definitely had a lower and higher hierarchy, tried to present an idealized version of humanity with no identity other than being members of Kingdom Hall and the supposedly small number people headed for paradise. JW don’t vote, so who knows whether she will even bother to cast her vote, one way or the other. Someone who might not even vote, why are we asking for their political views?

8 hours ago, DramatistDreamer said:

The effect is absolutely negligible. It has caused people to question the Jackson’s relationship to their Blackness and the possibility of vulnerability to misinformation for people over 55 but that’s about it.

I think if Kamala Harris were better known by the public it would not have an effect, but in such a close election, with so many still not sure of her, every vote worries me. 

I'm not sure Janet Jackson is relevant enough anymore for this to really matter. Once upon a time perhaps, but not so much nowadays.

 

18 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

I think if Kamala Harris were better known by the public it would not have an effect, but in such a close election, with so many still not sure of her, every vote worries me. 

Her personal favorables and know/trust numbers skyrocketed after the debate, so I don't think this is an issue anymore.

1 hour ago, I Am A Swede said:

I'm not sure Janet Jackson is relevant enough anymore for this to really matter. Once upon a time perhaps, but not so much nowadays.

Those are two separate issues afaic. She can still be relevant as an entertainer (every Superbowl her name trends) but it doesn’t mean we want her advice on political issues. There are some artists and entertainers for whom there will always be interest in the broad expanse of their views, while others…

I actually think the questions being asked these days also lack depth, but that’s another story.

Relevant or not, she is JANET JACKSON. She is a legend, an icon. No denying that. She has changed music and dance. And I will forever love her. The fact that she hasn't had a hit in years doesn't change that... SHE IS JANET JACKSON. That's exactly why I'm so disturbed by how she's dealt with this fiasco. People should stop acting like she is this locked in a closet naive girl who doesn't know what is going on in the world. She chose to repeat this. Her denying the apology is making the situation even stranger, even though I am not denying her right to say -I Have not apologized. If she feels like it - OK. BUT - People are taking this as confirmation that she is not sorry for repeating Trump's lies. That's the reality. Just because I love her as an artist, doesn't mean I am going to let this go by without reacting to it with my whole being. This election is probably the most important in our lifetimes. It's important to the whole world. This is not the moment to act like... Oh, I heard that her father was... (I will not repeat it). Kamala Harris is not someone who's identity should be doubted and or misrepresented. EVER. 

It's a huge misstep for Janet and I hope to God she realizes how bad it is and releases some KIND of statement. We don't need a crying video with an apology - just a simple - I now... KNOW.