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Empire: Discussion Thread

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They hit another series high in 18-49 and viewers with 4.7 and 11.9 million. This is now the fifth consecutive week of growth in viewers.

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They hit another series high in 18-49 and viewers with 4.7 and 11.9 million. This is now the fifth consecutive week of growth in viewers.

Hell yeah!

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They hit another series high in 18-49 and viewers with 4.7 and 11.9 million. This is now the fifth consecutive week of growth in viewers.

Wow. Just wow. I love it.

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"THIS is an ass" rofl

Anika can't really go head to head with Cookie, so it looks like she's going to try and use Porsha to get at Cookie.

Jamal isn't all that bold and brave, it appears. He did exactly what Lucious wanted him to do and that was be pretentious.

I was glad Andre threatened Vernon for putting his hands on him.

Courtney Love was good, I enjoyed her character. Very representative of those artists that crack up later in the careers.

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I understand Cookie and Hakeem's relationship is strained, but her treatment of him and the competition with her sons is kind of disturbing. She acts as if she hates him. That is not how this relationship should be developing. Fix this!

I also don't like how Cookie is being written to her other two sons. You just came out of jail & just going to bond with one of them & put her favorite song against the other.

Is she teaching Hakeem a lesson from the first episode. I hope Cookie hears him calling Camilla mother. & bonding with Anika will open her eyes to what he needs.

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I can't wait to see the last episode ratings. It got to be in the 12 millions. I can't believe they use AI as a lead in. They need to get rid of AI then reboot 21 Jump Street or New York Undercover.

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Cookie and Hakeem's relationship is what it is. I dont think it needs to be fixxed anytime soon. She already has the love of the older two. Hakeem provides some conflict and i think they will bond sooner or later. I do agree that I dont like how she's pitting Jamal against him but Lucious is just as much to blame for that. Its more of a power play between the parents and the kids unfortuantely are collateral damage

Can you really said that Andre loves Cookie? To me him and Hakeem are in the same position with their feelings for Cookie. & it's not in a good place.

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I also don't like how Cookie is being written to her other two sons. You just came out of jail & just going to bond with one of them & put her favorite song against the other.

Is she teaching Hakeem a lesson from the first episode. I hope Cookie hears him calling Camilla mother. & bonding with Anika will open her eyes to what he needs.

Yes, that is what I'm saying. The look she gave Hakeem when she walked off with her fav, Jamal, was not written very well. This young man is not some joe competing with her son. Hakeem is her son, and while I don't expect her to kiss his ass, I do think she needs to keep trying. If Hakeem is a mean little !@#$%^&*], Cookie needs to look in the mirror. She didn't go to jail on trump up charges, bitch was a drug dealer. SHE is the reason Hakeem didn't have a mother, so he has a right to have an attitude. I was not happy with what I saw yesterday because it did Cookie no favors. Be bad ass because those are my favorite characters, but don't give the audience a reason to hate you. It just wasn't right, and I hope this is fixed STAT!

She also needs to make some time for Andre. I think they are doing too much with Cookie while ignoring what a terrible mother she is. Alexis Carrington had her favorite (Steven), and while Fallon annoyed the crap out of her, we know Alexis loved her children. We are not getting that from Cookie, but we should.

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I can't wait to see the last episode ratings. It got to be in the 12 millions. I can't believe they use AI as a lead in. They need to get rid of AI then reboot 21 Jump Street or New York Undercover.

I find it hilarious that American Idol was supposed to help Empire and Empire is two full points ahead of them in 18-49. AI has a 2.7 to Empire's 4.7. Please believe Empire will be moving to 8pm in the fall.
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I find it hilarious that American Idol was supposed to help Empire and Empire is two full points ahead of them in 18-49. AI has a 2.7 to Empire's 4.7. Please believe Empire will be moving to 8pm in the fall.

Yep yep!!!!

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Yes, that is what I'm saying. The look she gave Hakeem when she walked off with her fav, Jamal, was not written very well. This young man is not some joe competing with her son. Hakeem is her son, and while I don't expect her to kiss his ass, I do think she needs to keep trying.

She has kept trying. Remember her conversation with him outside the men's room? But last night Hakeem was drunk, sloppy and focused only on what he wanted or needed. There was no point in trying to talk to him.

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Can you really said that Andre loves Cookie? To me him and Hakeem are in the same position with their feelings for Cookie. & it's not in a good place.

maybe not love, but he doesnt have her contempt. I think she and Andre's interactions have been fine. Not perfect, but obviously not hostile like hakeem

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