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Empire: Discussion Thread

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You could always start a spoiler thread and if the mods don't like it, they'll let us know.

True but honestly, it wasn't the mods I was concerned with. Confession time....

With all my years on this board, one of the things that has always baffled me is why some soaps have daily threads while others had monthly. Plus I've seen enough skirmishes over the ages where someone starts a thread instead of someone else, etc... Long story, short. I've never really understood the expectations of the community for that and when people fight about it I have flashbacks to Christmas 1976 a.k.a. little Marceline's worst Christmas ever. tongue.png Just kidding but honestly I've never been able to figure out the rules on that so I just guessed and clearly I guessed wrong.

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Eric83,

Loving the new gifs and avatar! Is Andre/Trai your new bae?

He's been bae since I saw him in Selma with them tight ass shirts on but I just had to rep for Cookie/Taraji first.
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After catching up with the episodes:

1. If Lee were smart, he'd take heed of what they've done to Sleepy Hollow (allowed a fail character to dominate the show at the expense of the integral (Black) characters to the show's detriment) and Grey's Anatomy (allow an egotistical actress to dictate storyline at the expense of the show's quality) and avoid those pitfalls so that Empire can enjoy a fruitful nighttime soap life.

2. Lee had better give Anika layers beyond being the 'snotty light-skinned bitch' pretty soon or else he'll be guilty of pulling the same sh!t that Tyler Perry does (relying on that tired paper-bag trope to draw his characters). Someone mentioned her and Hakeem developing a genuine rapport with one another as an organic way to get under Cookie's skin and I'd much rather see that kind of jab than what I've seen thus far.

3. Like everyone, I'm Team Jamal. My only fear is that Lee may decide to give him some sort of "edge" (IMO, make him unrootable and intolerable enough to want him off my screen) to pacify whiners a segment of the audience who complain about mythical don't care for Gary Stus.

4. I'll admit that one of the reasons why I don't care for Andre is because I'm over seeing a Black man being dominated by a white woman. It's never been a good look onscreen and it's tainting any sympathy that I could have for that character (well, that and him being the true bitch of the show instead of Jamal).

5. 3 episodes in and nope, I don't see it for Señor Baby Wipes as the titular Puffy Combs titan that Lee wants me to see him as. It doesn't help that I find him absolutely loathsome in real life, but the Lucious that should be onscreen is the dynamic and charismatic bastard (a la Puffy Combs in real life or JR Ewing in fictional land) that I should love to hate. Since Silky T has the onscreen presence of a moldy tampon, I'll forever mourn the producers letting Wesley Snipes (who would've been absolutely electric, despite Lucious being sort of a call-back to Nino Brown from New Jack City) slip through their fingers.

6. I never thought that Hakeem was as ugly as many others do (my theory for why some do is a whole other subject for another day) and am glad that they're giving him enough layers to balance out the Ike Brown mannerisms. I'm hoping that his dalliance with Queen Naomi actually delves deeper into his mommy issues and that they don't drop the ball on this.

7. Cookie J. Blige is the Queen of Wednesday night. That is all.

I actually agree with some of this. I kinda wonder where this show goes after the main premise inevitably comes to an end? I suppose new characters and new storyline doors will have to become a reality at some point in the next season. I hope that this show gets a lot deeper at some point. We're talking about the world of hip hop, and there's a lot of stuff to be mimed there. I figure a show like this would be filled with evildoers coming and going left and right. I don't mind camp and humor. I just hope it doesn't overwhelm the show to the point where we don't get the real "meat and potatoes" out of it. Speaking of Wesley Snipes, I get the feeling that all is not lost on that front. I can certainly see him being brought on as Anika's menacing ex-husband, Tyrone.laugh.png

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I told you that Cookie should work with Hakeem. Then the brothers don't have to compete.

This show is moving too fast again.

I wish that was Cookie to found out first .

Berrti or whatever his name is don't know the wild card is here, Cookie.

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He's been bae since I saw him in Selma with them tight ass shirts on but I just had to rep for Cookie/Taraji first.

Yay! Just know that the Empire belongs to me and my boo though. K? wink.png

How long will it take Boo Boo Kitty to push Lucifer to wife her up now that she knows he's dying?

Real soon.

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Anika is getting a bit more developed.

YASSS to Tianna working with Cookie. Love it. She's growing on me a ton in this episode.

Love Sister Cookie. LMAO. Cookie is everything. EVERYTHING.

I like seeing the flashback of Lucious and a young Andre as he hides the gun for Lucious and then gives him an alibi for Bunkie's murder. LOVED the shot of Vernon. He knows Andre lied.

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Both these boys are lazy ass kids. Like I said both are the same side of a coin. Lucious especially Cookie is the brains. Anika needs to seat her ass in the corner

Cookie got a short ass dress on talking to a muslim(ms) sister.

So, Andre is also musical, & very protective of his father. Not only he was there for the drops & also hid away guns.

Cookie already knows another way.

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