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Empire: Discussion Thread

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I think Cookie is just out to have anybody manhood that isn't Lucious. I don't think she serious about Malcolm.

Plus Malcolm got to be in his late 20s, early 30s. Hakeem is 18 or 19, you can compare the age different.

I agree with you here, I think Cookie is trying to move on. Any pickle will do.

Yall think Malcom is in his 20's. I thought he was Cookie's age. What am I missing?

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I agree, it's nothing new, the programming blocs that newer networks had a couple of decades ago that catered to more urban audiences are proof of that. Those shows were eventually dropped, though, when those networks took different directions. What is somewhat new is minorities in leading roles in dramas, as it the only leading roles before were mostly in sitcoms.

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Lol this thread just is too hilarious. I could read it all day long...reads left and right.

Cookie with Andre at the beginning of the episode just killed me...."he's won't talk......just shattered to pieces.

Good for Rhonda to stick up for herself. Liked that they're not making her one dimensional. If Oprah brings even half of what she brought to the Butler then I'm sold. Love the heffa haters be damned.

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I agree, it's nothing new, the programming blocs that newer networks had a couple of decades ago that catered to more urban audiences are proof of that. Those shows were eventually dropped, though, when those networks took different directions. What is somewhat new is minorities in leading roles in dramas, as it the only leading roles before were mostly in sitcoms.

Yep, that's the thing. I remember about 10-15 years ago, TV Land was into making documentaries about TV history, and there was one about blacks in dramatic roles. Several people pointed out that there had never been a successful family drama centered on a black family on network television - ever. I refused to believe it, but it was true!! It boggles my mind, especially with the success of Roots, that no one ever thought to bring forth a black answer to Eight is Enough or The Waltons or whatever.

Soul Food may have literally been the first to run for a considerable amount of time, and that was post-2000. Amazing.

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The first Black drama was in 1979.

The first successful Black drama was indeed Soul Food.

What series was in 1979? I remember CBS had one that lasted like a season in the mid 90's.
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What series was in 1979? I remember CBS had one that lasted like a season in the mid 90's.

Harris & Company

There had been several other Black dramas prior to (or during) Soul Food's run but they were either canceled after a few episodes or only lasted a single season.

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Ugh, i really this was a daytime soap. i would love to see relationships develop.

Has no one heard of dna testing?

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Ugh, i really this was a daytime soap. i would love to see relationships develop.

Has no one heard of dna testing?

If this was a daytime soap then the Lyons wouldn't be the leading family. Daytime doesn't do that anymore. They should but they don't.

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If this was a daytime soap then the Lyons wouldn't be the leading family. Daytime doesn't do that anymore. They should but they don't.

up until this year, network primetime television wasnt doing this either.

Ugh, i really this was a daytime soap. i would love to see relationships develop.

Has no one heard of dna testing?

IKR? That was a glaring hole in this story, especially since Jamal only had sex with her once

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up until this year, network primetime television wasnt doing this either.

IKR? That was a glaring hole in this story, especially since Jamal only had sex with her once

Touche'

However, daytime used to do it. That is why I phrased it that way.

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